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rds dc
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Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
Is CEO actively involved in this absurd defense or is he staying out of the way?


Byrdybyrd05
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
He doesn’t want to be proven wrong


LSUTIGERS8181
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
Cause he has no idea what to do. He leaves everything to his coordinators cause he can’t coach himself


Tiger1988
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW Xs and Os.

It is REALLY SIMPLE.


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the LSUSaint
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
At one point we punted and pinned them back at the 1 ft line....the next play, they simply ran around right end for 20.

Gaye, #11, just stood there. No containment! Basic, 4th grade football, jeep containment

When guys are doing that, they suck.


CFF lover
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
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Cause he has no idea what to do. He leaves everything to his coordinators cause he can’t coach himself


I believe that is the bottom line. He is clueless.


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610man
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
He's a DL coach, never been a coordinator.


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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
He isn’t a coach who can coach either side of the ball.

There is absolutely a reason he was never able to get hired as a DC.
How can people not understand this?


CharlesLSU
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
Bingo. He has zero coordinator experience.


LSUNV
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
That would be like asking your car mechanic to program a network switch. That is not the answer
This post was edited on 11/1 at 11:28 am


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GetmorewithLes
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
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Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues by rds dc
Is CEO actively involved in this absurd defense or is he staying out of the way?


And do what?

Make Jacoby Stevens play better, smarter, faster?

Create 17 more scholarship players?

Beat em senseless and have 5 more players opt out?

We have 68 scholarship players... let thatsink in


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Jcorye1
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
He has never been a coordinator.


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rsylve
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
Bill Johnson is a shite line coach and was fired by Sean Payton. So was the special teams coach because coverage units were shite. Nothing has changed.
This post was edited on 11/1 at 11:33 am


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coldcace06
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
Hes not a X and O coach hes never even been a coordinator


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Boomshockalocka
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
Too many holes. Too many guys left + opt outs. Guys just not ready to play at this level. He was a victim of his own success. A 2 loss SEason last year and no opt out and the D This year is absolutely stacked


tigre704
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
this is the simplified defense they said they were gonna do after Mizzou. the scheme is as simple as it can be.


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abellsujr
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
He has tried, and failed


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BigBrod81
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
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Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues


Just as you are excellent & knowledgeable when it comes to tropical systems, O is just the opposite when it comes to game planning against offenses especially modern spread offenses.


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Scoob
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
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Too many holes. Too many guys left + opt outs. Guys just not ready to play at this level. He was a victim of his own success. A 2 loss SEason last year and no opt out and the D This year is absolutely stacked

That might play a part, but it shouldn't lead to losses to Mizzou and Miss State, and a blowout loss to Auburn.
That isn't even a good Auburn team, nor are the others having big seasons even by their own standards.

OP asked why Orgeron doesn't address the defense himself.

Look back at Miles, when things got bad, Les stepped in and did what he did; smashmouth power running team, Toss Dive, etc. No more Jimbo, no more Crowton, straight-up Les.
We laugh and criticize that, but the truth is, it worked for the most part. Stopped the bleeding in 2008, we finished with 8 wins and killed Georgia Tech in the bowl. Built that up to 2011 and a title run, beat Saban's Alabama team a couple times (2010, 2011) along the way. That's because Les understood that style enough to implement it, and we had the dogs to run it against 99% of CFB (ultimately, just not Bama).

We're fast approaching that point now, where if Orgeron has any idea at all on defense, we're going to see it. The offense, despite yesterday, has been good enough to win probably 80-90% of our games. The defense has been bad enough (yes, even against Vanderbilt) to lose every game. Vandy had guys running wide open that they just never hit. South Carolina ran at will.

If we don't see any unique changes, that's your answer on whether O has any actual coaching ideas.



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countrytiger60
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re: Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues
he has forgotten more about coaching then you will ever know.


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