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re: Why aren’t batters swinging when catcher step toward (not on) the plate.

Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:16 am to
fricking dumbass.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
28087 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:18 am to
He’s not talking about a real swing where the batter actually tries to contact the ball, just a weak shoulder high wave that keeps the catcher in his place. It couldn’t have been done in this case because there were two strikes on the batter but it isn’t as crazy as some of you are making it out to be. Again, ULL vs Clemson in the 2000 CWS.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36627 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:41 am to
If the batter swings and hits the catcher the coach of the team at bat can take the result of the play or put his batter on first base.

Posted by DamnStrong
NOLA Til I Die!
Member since Aug 2008
4166 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Yeah but that would have been strike 3 and the game would have been over before the runner reached home plate


Nope. If they ruled strike 3, that would have ended the top of the 10th, and LSU would bat in the bottom of the 10th, tied 10 apeice.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21476 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:03 pm to
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People that have actually played baseball have been coached to swing high to keep the catcher back


You've had some shitty arse coaches bro.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
7009 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:17 pm to
Batter will be ejected for intentionally endangering the catcher.

You really don’t know much about baseball do you?


Catcher may leave catcher’s box at any time, other than during an intentional walk.
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3313 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:28 pm to
This scenario comes up pretty often in younger kid baseball. You have 2 outs and a runner on third and a 9 hole batter that has struck out his last 20 at bats. As the third base coach you don’t want to leave runner stranded at third. When you signal the steal, the batter would confirm he got the sign by hitting his cleat with the bat or some other predetermined sign so you were sure he wouldn’t swing. As soon as left handed pitcher comes set, the runner breaks home, your hoping the pitcher freaks out and balks, but if not, your runner gets a great break and has a chance to steal. Any coach that steals home with a batter hitting live is an idiot. Also lost in this is a batter hitting live and dialed in on pitcher really shouldn’t be aware of the catcher moving forward.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10714 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:00 pm to
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In last week, I have seen two steals of home. In each case, the batter didn’t protect the runner. A simple swing keeps the catcher back and/or hits the catcher resulting in a free base (runner goes back to third).


Because usually the batter is given a take or bunt if you are stealing home. It is more dangerous for the runner if the batter is swinging.

Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
3968 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:17 pm to
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A simple swing keeps the catcher back and/or hits the catcher resulting in a free base (runner goes back to third).


So much wrong with this line of thinking but for general awareness, unless there’s a bunt on, nobody is swinging at a pitch when they know a teammate is screaming down the 3rd base line
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43208 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:18 pm to
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The batter said after the game he had no idea what was going on.

then why did he step out of the box??
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42322 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:24 pm to
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You people act like you would purposely swing a bat and hit another player if you were playing. There isn't a kid out there that wants to swing the bat and take the chance of hitting their teammate stealing, or hitting the catcher with the bat. It's cool to pretend to be a billy bad arse on the internet, but these kids aren't monsters (except Milam I guess).


Maybe a swing bunt
Posted by Rich539
Member since Feb 2024
45 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:32 pm to
Pitcher doesn’t step off rubber; thus, it is a pitch. Batter should not step out of box & batter should protect his runner coming home.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12886 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:55 pm to
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then why did he step out of the box??

He obviously saw the runner going to home and the catcher move. He didn’t have enough time to think “oh I should swing”
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9625 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 2:35 pm to
Pitchers are also taught to nail the batter.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14551 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 2:37 pm to
You are supposed to just wave the bat to keep the catcher back. Wave the bay above the zone and runner can slide safely
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15058 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 3:14 pm to
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Yeah but that would have been strike 3 and the game would have been over before the runner reached home plate



Yes- in this case it was not the smart option. But in general, swinging on a steal home is a called play.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15058 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 3:17 pm to
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So I guess you call a play to tell batter try and hit the catcher if he comes forward. Really?


The play is usually a very slow, long swing with no real intention of hitting the ball and being very slow to vacate the box for a righty. There’s a general awareness that you may hit the catcher’s mask or glove. The goal is to make contact and get a base, not hurt him or hit the ball.



For lefties, the slow out of the box part is pretty useless.
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