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re: Why am I supposed to be so mad at Wade signing "pros"?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:57 pm to Coastrashtiger
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:57 pm to Coastrashtiger
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He has no clue about basketball has proved that over many years. Not only that throughout the entire McMahon tenure up until the day before the switch to Wade, McMahon personally and on orders wanted to keep McMahon over Wade. I’m not saying I know for sure but there’s enough evidence that Moscona does not understand at all or want Wade as a coach/ambassador for LSU. Moscona doesn’t dislike Wade the person or wish him bad success because that would mean the hand that feeds would do worse. But at every turn will downplay credit to any Wade success and try and build up McMahon or any other program. It’s just odd, I assume it goes back to when Jordy Cullotta left Guranty and took the amount of acces they had with him to his own thing, maybe has to do with that.
There was a power struggle behind the scenes to get Wade back to LSU. Not everyone was fully on board. Including Verge and some prominent boosters. Matt has good relationships with Verge and some of the boosters. He doesn't have strong relationships with the people who were the driving forces to get Wade back. That was largely Jeff Landry and his political supporters' allies/supporters. So some of what you were hearing from Matt was just one side of the behind the scenes battle...the side that was not all in on Wade returning. They didn't want to allow themselves to be bullied by the Governor, for various reasons. Money being the primary reason given the expense of firing Kelly and hiring Kiffin.
Matt doesn't dislike Wade, and I don't think they have a bad relationship. It's just that he was only discussing the information he was privy to. In this instance, the sources providing that information did not want Wade back to LSU.
On this particular topic I'm ok with Matt's position (even if I somewhat disagree). I think on the whole ALL college sports fans would just like a world where there was clarity on the rules and there weren't constant runs to the courthouse to bend them in your favor for your specific need at the time. But if that is how the sausage is made then you either try to use it for a competitive advantage or get left behind
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:13 pm to Alt26
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I think on the whole ALL college sports fans would just like a world where there was clarity on the rules and there weren't constant runs to the courthouse to bend them in your favor for your specific need at the time.
Totally agree.
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So some of what you were hearing from Matt was just one side of the behind the scenes battle...the side that was not all in on Wade returning. They didn't want to allow themselves to be bullied by the Governor, for various reasons.
I got that and understood it. What i’m saying is okay he was sorta against the Wade rehire or spoke in his connections and their internal feelings. But even if Vesge didn’t want to. Up until the minute Wade returned, there was never any pushback or it felt like any real plan, for lack of a better word had they won the power struggle. So Wade doesn’t come to LSU. There was no sense and actually it was put forth the opposite on three occasions by guests on Moscona’s show of so you don’t get Wade, your going to keep McMahon? Will only had one week between getting hired and the portal opening. So Vegre himself speaking about the job or others you were gooing to keep McMahon, or let him go but you didn’t have a search ready, or have any names they put forward themselves. It would have been a very tough sell to get a good list of coaches that would have wanted that job, if they didn’t want Wade they didn’t have anything else though, so in effect they are just hurting the program and university for what power?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:20 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Bottom line is that rosters aren’t set in May. All of the wailing and gnashing of teeth over Wade’s ATTEMPTS to build a roster, however unorthodox and seemingly in the face of God himself it seems to be, is way premature.
He’s not “signing” players who now automatically get to play and that no one else has access to. He’s recruiting players and soliciting commitments from players who he knows may not be eligible. If they aren’t, no harm no foul. The only person at risk is Wade. Period.
If some or ALL end up becoming eligible then they can all blame themselves for not having the foresight to work the same angles. It won’t be Wade’s fault. To eviscerate him in May sounds like panic and overreaction.
In November Wade’s putting a team of ELIGIBLE players on the court. That’s how it works. How they met eligibility is of no consequence. Every damn coach in every sport is looking for that edge over the other guy. For the media, coaches, fans to be touting one coach or concept (especially in recruiting) as more ethical, fair, honest or righteous is hypocritical at best and honestly quite comical.
Let it play out. By Game 1 we’ll all have the answers. There’s no “cheating” or breaking of rules going on. Nor will there be any.
I do wonder if we’d be having this conversation if Niang had chosen UNC, Santos picked UK and Dessert decided on Arizona, Kansas or Texas Tech. Bet not.
He’s not “signing” players who now automatically get to play and that no one else has access to. He’s recruiting players and soliciting commitments from players who he knows may not be eligible. If they aren’t, no harm no foul. The only person at risk is Wade. Period.
If some or ALL end up becoming eligible then they can all blame themselves for not having the foresight to work the same angles. It won’t be Wade’s fault. To eviscerate him in May sounds like panic and overreaction.
In November Wade’s putting a team of ELIGIBLE players on the court. That’s how it works. How they met eligibility is of no consequence. Every damn coach in every sport is looking for that edge over the other guy. For the media, coaches, fans to be touting one coach or concept (especially in recruiting) as more ethical, fair, honest or righteous is hypocritical at best and honestly quite comical.
Let it play out. By Game 1 we’ll all have the answers. There’s no “cheating” or breaking of rules going on. Nor will there be any.
I do wonder if we’d be having this conversation if Niang had chosen UNC, Santos picked UK and Dessert decided on Arizona, Kansas or Texas Tech. Bet not.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:20 pm to savecf101
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This is what it is. It's sad that we are now fielding a team of paid players who have no affiliation with LSU and will have no love for LSU when they are gone. This is something I can not be a fan of. LSU has lost this alum and supporter. I hope this madness ends and we return to something I can have some pride in.
I understand the sentiment.
what do you think would be the ideal system? if we go fully amateur again and just have club teams basically they will be paid illegally again.
I think we should just quit college sports altogether and have local pro teams. and promotion and relegation like Europe.
I wouldn't care if tiger stadium was the home of the baton rouge tigers and they were not pretending to be students
Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:30 pm to MRTigerFan
they are not amateurs you nim rod! LSU just signed an international player for 5 million dollars!! Wake up and get out the damn stone age!!!
Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:51 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Oh no! Those guys were low level pros! They were paid to play basketball. That should make them ineligible to....be paid millions as NCAA amateur athletes.
Basketball is the only sport doing this. No other sport has an infrastructure that can support this. These eurotrash players will deflate the interest in a lot of casual fans. If you are a BB diehard probably wont bother you.
My comments are directed at the NCAA and not LSU because they are all doing it and if Wade didnt get these guys somebody else would.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:04 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I remember back in the day The USA had to send truly amateur athletes to the Olympics, while the USSR, China, etc. sent athletes that were actual pros getting paid salaries from their governments. What a crock that was. Who the heck does the NCAA, or anyone else think they are by mandating how much money people can make. Give all people 5 years eligibility and let the bidding begin...
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:06 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I mentioned it in January but I want Kiffin to go after Oline and Dline out of the Canadian football league 
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:22 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:29 pm to LSUChamps03
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He’s not “signing” players who now automatically get to play and that no one else has access to. He’s recruiting players and soliciting commitments from players who he knows may not be eligible.
Not trying to be argumentative at all, I still want to know besides Luis Jr. how could they when they apply for eligibility be ruled ineligible. Can show right now in the SEC 15 examples from last year and the portal this given moment, of the exact same situation. They were ruled eligible and are playing/transferring in. The only big difference was CWW cut out the middle men and didn’t wait. They went directly to pro teams with buyout money, and did nothing wrong. They just got so many at once directly from the second best league in the world. LSU doesn’t need permission or have the inclination to let people know what they are doing? It’s recruiting, I mean so when Mark Pope from Kentucky flew to Tel Aviv sat down with Santos and was told no by him and his agent I don’t want to play for you GTFO, LSU had been in co tact with him before during and after. What LSU should have called Kentucky and told them hey don’t give up he still might want to play. Or call Kansas about Dessert, like Desseet committed and was going to come over and play for Kansas last year, the reason he didn’t wasn’t because of eligibility it was the draft, Andalou coming in and offering a good deal and he didn’t wanna leave Europe at the time in his life plain and simple.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:33 pm to basiletiger
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they are not amateurs you nim rod! LSU just signed an international player for 5 million dollars!! Wake up and get out the damn stone age!!!
From now on you should read the entire post before you make idiot comments.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:43 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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Boot Up.
Yeah, about that. Not sure you understand what that means.
Then goes on to not know what it means either.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:43 pm to GetmorewithLes
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These eurotrash players will deflate the interest in a lot of casual fans. If you are a BB diehard probably wont bother you.
I think NCAA going pro is going to kill some interest
I don't know what the path is for them in this hybrid world. NCAA is going professional and the professional leagues are better
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:52 pm to jamarr
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I think we should just quit college sports altogether and have local pro teams
And they would fold after a few years for lack of interest. Just like so many minor league teams, in all sports
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I wouldn't care if tiger stadium was the home of the baton rouge tigers and they were not pretending to be students
And after the initial novelty wore off this is what the crowds would look like
The popularity of is a result of the 100+ year of goodwill built into the "brand name". Take Illinois State's roster, put them in LSU's uniforms playing as the LSU Tigers and Tiger Stadium will fill to capacity (at least for the 1st half). But take Georgia's roster, put them in generic uniforms and call them the "Baton Rouge Tigers" and Tiger Stadium eventually sits 70% empty.
You have an emotional attachment to LSU. You cheer for LSU. You care about LSU. The players have always been a revolving door. Even before NIL/transfer era. It's the institution that has remained the constant for decades. Lose that goodwill and you lose everything.
For example, Michelob Ultra is the highest selling beer in the US. But take that EXACT same beer but brand it as "Mike's Ultra" in a different bottle and it doesn't sell. People are buying the brand, not necessarily the beer
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what do you think would be the ideal system? if we go fully amateur again and just have club teams basically they will be paid illegally again.
Eventually, yes. That's because supporters of the club LSU team will want to see their team beat Alabama's club team...which would eventually lead to LSU's club team supporters illegally recruiting better players for their team. The cycle would just start over.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:57 pm to Alt26
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their team beat Alabama's club team
frick Bama club team is my first thoughts here
They probably cheating
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:58 pm to Alt26
By the way Wade and LSU just got a commitment from a EURO that was in this years NBA draft class and is taking his name out that nobody had heard of even being in contact with. You still have Graves and now de Laurrea
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:58 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Why am I supposed to be so mad at Wade signing "pros"?
For me it’s not so much that but the average age of the team might be 23
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:59 pm to Alt26
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You have an emotional attachment to LSU. You cheer for LSU. You care about LSU. The players have always been a revolving door. Even before NIL/transfer era. It's the institution that has remained the constant for decades. Lose that goodwill and you lose everything.
Agreed! That's why I will watch LSU gymnastics or softball, yet never watch a minute of those sports on TV if LSU Is not playing. I love sports. I love LSU. I really love LSU sports.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 5:00 pm to TigerLunatik
I came from his mouth in a fricking clown show trailer park video, of himself as a general.
Boot up was understood in most circles as putting a recruiting fence up around the boot (Louisiana) to stop losing top talent, especially in football and basketball
Only a clown would deny that
Boot up was understood in most circles as putting a recruiting fence up around the boot (Louisiana) to stop losing top talent, especially in football and basketball
Only a clown would deny that
Posted on 5/20/26 at 5:04 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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came from his mouth in a fricking clown show trailer park video, of himself as a general.
Boot up was understood in most circles as putting a recruiting fence up around the boot (Louisiana) to stop losing top talent, especially in football and basketball
Only a clown would deny that
Italy is also a boot baw
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