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re: Who's on the HC list for Bball?

Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:23 am to
Alleva's list would be:

Jay Wright
Gregg Marshall

Then once he became offended at the audacity of those coaches asking for HUGE salaries, he would go hire David Patrick back from TCU and hope he has some other all-world Godchild in some foreign country.

Everyone would love Bill Self, Gregg Marshall, etc, but I think the list has to be guys who might REALISTICALLY consider the LSU job. This isn't a bad job at all. There are many good players just in the TX/LA/MS tri-state area alone. The right guy could win, and win quickly at LSU. Once that happens, the fans will come back. If LSU fans are willing to pack the PMAC for women's basketball (in the Sue/Pokey days) and gymnastics because those teams are ranked highly, they will certainly show up for Men's basketball if they can consistently win.

I think a realistic list could include:

Steve Prohm (Iowa St.) - Bama grad; coached in LA as an assistant for 7 years. Recruits the state and his top recruiter is from Mississippi. Early 40's. He's at the "little brother" school in a state not necessarily known for pumping out top athletic talent. Plus he's in a brutal conf. Maybe he wants to get back down south where he could have an easier job with less expectations, especially if Fred Hoiberg gets fired by the Bulls. Is paid about $1.5 mill. Certainly LSU should be able to increase that since they are already paying $1.5 mill for the garbage Jones puts out.

Buzz Williams (Va Tech) - Very successful at Marquette and has started to turn VT around. Curious why he would he would leave a very successful MU to go to a never-has-been in VT. Still, he's relatively young. He's a TX native with some ties to LA. A big personality. He would immediately work to regain fan interest a la Bruce Pearl. The ACC is a slaughterhouse, especially when you are at the #2 school in a state where the flagship (UVA) has become a consistent power.

Mike White (Florida) - Doesn't seem likely that he would make a jump seemingly "down" from UF to LSU, but he's a NOLA guy who had great success in this state (La. Tech). Just like it won't be easy for the guy who follows Saban at Bama, it's hard to follow a legend in Billy Donovan. He can come home to Louisiana and not have to be judged against unreal success of Donovan. Basically he is in a Les Miles position -- really good is not good enough over there.

Richard Pitino (Minnesota) - Very young (34) but obviously has the name recognition and hopefully the family pedigree. Has struggled at Minn., but seems to maybe be finding his footing this season. You could argue it may be easier to get players at LSU than Minn. Still, it's obviously a risk because there is no guarantee he would ever be as good a coach as his dad and the results haven't been outstanding.

Will Wade (VCU) - another very young guy (34), but he has had good success at Chattanooga and now at VCU. A southern guy (Nashville native) who is known as a pretty good recruiter as well as coach. VCU has certainly become a very good job, but you'd have to believe LSU can outbid any salary they could put out there.

Chris Collins (Northwestern) - Son of Doug Collins and Coach K protege (which hasn't always equaled results). He's taken a graveyard program in Northwestern and started to make them competitive in the Big 10. The worry would always be that Duke is the dream job as Coach K can't have too many years left, but he may be willing to leave NU because, quite frankly, coaching there is like trying to swim with one arm tied behind your back. No matter how much effort you exert, there's only so much you can do

Kermit Davis (MTSU) - One of John Brady's early assistants. Knows LSU and has done a good job at MTSU. Would almost assuredly take the LSU job if offered. Still, despite good success, he's been at MTSU for a long time, which makes you wonder why no other power schools have tried to grab him. There have been plenty of SEC jobs come open during his time at MTSU, including Vandy and Tenn., and Davis never seemed to be a big player. Is he just a slightly better Johnny Jones?

Rick Stansbury (WKU) - Probably a little under-appreciated at MSU, but had some very good years there. Obviously knows out to recruit LA/MS/TX. He would walk to BR to be LSU's HC. Still, is a SEC re-tread the direction we want to go? No question he would be better than Jones, but there seems to be a pretty clear ceiling for him as well.


Personally, Williams would be my first call in that group. I think he would do really well recruiting TX and LA and would generate some excitement among the fans almost immediately. He took over a dump of a program in Va. Tech and in year 3 has turned them into a player in the ultra-competitive ACC. That was after a 6 year run at Marquette in the then brutal Big East which saw two Sweet 16 appearances and one Elite 8 appearance. He could do a GREAT job at VT and still only finish in the middle of the ACC with teams like Duke, UNC, Louisville, UVA, Notre Dame, Syracuse, almost always in national contention. It would be much, MUCH, easier to win in the SEC which consist of one powerhouse (UK) and 13 other programs that can vary anywhere from decent to bad depending on the year.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:42 am to
I say throw some money at greg mcdermot
Posted by LSU Jax
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:38 am to
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Alt26

Great post. Thanks for taking it seriously and putting some names down with some good info about each.




ETA: I've been jealous of UF's hiring of White ever since I first saw him coaching on their sidelines. Had not even considered the possibility of making a run at him. Intriguing.

I'm also intrigued by a couple of other names on your list, most notably Williams.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:44 am
Posted by macanLSU
Wilmington, NC
Member since Sep 2008
445 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

I think a realistic list could include:

A young and rising name you may consider,

Kevin Keatts - Current UNC Wilmington Men Basketball Head Coach
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Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:50 am to
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Randy Livingston doesn't have a chance in hell of getting the position. Please stop.




I would have said the same thing about coach O four months ago.
Posted by Shotgun Willie
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:51 am to
Id hire Kurtis Townsend, current assistant at Kansas and one of top recruiters in the country. Also known as top xs and o guy
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:58 am to
I think we need a black coach with Louisiana ties!

The Louisiana boys always do well coaching at LSU.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:00 am to
Butch Pierre
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:10 am to
I wanted Buzz when we hired JJ. He was still at Marquette and I think we could have gotten him here pretty easily. I would definitely make him say "No" first.

Agree about Stansbury and Kernit. Both are immediate upgrades but I don't know that the long-term ceiling is where we would want it to be.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51594 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Stop trying to make Rick Stansbury happen.


it needs to
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13784 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:08 pm to
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Basically he is in a Les Miles position -- really good is not good enough over there.
I'd argue that this isn't true; his seat isn't anywhere near warm and I think comparing LSU football expectations to UF basketball expectations is silly.

Sure, he'll probably never be as loved as Donovan unless he reaches the same heights, but as long as he builds a solid program that makes the tournament three or four times every half decade and every once in awhile gets past the first weekend he'll be well-liked and will have complete job security.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Chaseff
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:37 pm to
Who knows who is on the damn list! The last time checked, Jones was still the coach!
Posted by maine82
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:29 pm to
DALSU
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:51 pm to
I would take Lester Earl at this point
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15480 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:05 am to
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Kermit Davis (MTSU) - One of John Brady's early assistants. Knows LSU and has done a good job at MTSU. Would almost assuredly take the LSU job if offered. Still, despite good success, he's been at MTSU for a long time, which makes you wonder why no other power schools have tried to grab him. There have been plenty of SEC jobs come open during his time at MTSU, including Vandy and Tenn., and Davis never seemed to be a big player. Is he just a slightly better Johnny Jones?


Kermit was also head coach at Idaho (88 & 89) going to the NCAA Tourney both years. 90 he was hired as Texas A&M head coach went 8-21 and resigned.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7675 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:56 am to
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Roman Banks



would be great hire. I can gaurantee that we would be playing beastly defense and 100 percent effort
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16197 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:02 am to
quote:

Who's on the HC list for Bball?
. Johnny Jones is the one and only name on the list right now. LSU doesn't care about basketball- jones ain't going anywhere.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16197 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:52 pm to
As much as we need to make a change and make it now I don't see Aleva doing it. I really think he's that incompetent.
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