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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:18 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:18 am to Topwater Trout
quote:You don’t have a large thought capacity
why would parents tell their child to own up to a crime that they knew without any doubt he didn't commit? It's more likely the parents thought he was guilty to get him to plea
This isn’t a movie. People take pleas to end things. People don’t really care about others thinking they are innocent or not when they are facing jail time
Let’s turn it on some of these internet badasses
You are married with kids. You are accused of rape and you are 100% innocent. But your lawyer says he thinks you will lose the case because it’s just a he said/she said.
Your wife believes you and yells you to take the plea so you don’t miss 5 years of your life with your kids. Your family and loved ones already beleive you
99% of those times people take the plea, because they don’t give a frick what internet people will think about it, they get to go home to their family
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:20 am to tigervet89
Alert the waiting list. There's now room for one really caring passionate fan to replace one self righteous pos.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:23 am to tigervet89
This reminds me of the stupid Tennessee fan angst over hiring Schiano.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:24 am to lsupride87
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But your lawyer says he thinks you will lose the case because it’s just a he said/she said.
If my lawyer could get me off based on 0 physical evidence and strictly he said/she said I'd hire a new lawyer. I guess that makes me an "internet badass". When do I get my trophy??
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:24 am to tigervet89
I think Joe already has a job.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:28 am to Honkus
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I guess that makes me an "internet badass"
Are you a kid? He was.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Are you a kid? He was
Don’t try to tell me you didn’t know not to diddle your 4/6 year old cousin when you were 16.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:33 am to Topwater Trout
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why would parents tell their child to own up to a crime that they knew without any doubt he didn't commit? It's more likely the parents thought he was guilty to get him to plea
If you read the story, they said they didn't want to put their granddaughter through cross examination on advice of their attorney. They have said they should have sought out a different attorney, as they have gotten better legal advice since then. Heimlich has denied every allegation since day 1.
None of this has anything to do with Pat Casey. Since all of this was sealed, Casey had absolutely no knowledge of it when he recruited the kid. He didn't play for Casey after the news came out, and only returned to the team the next season, after even the university president showed support of Heimlich returning. I'm sure Casey and OSU did a ton of due diligence on this.
All that said, I do not want Pat Casey to coach LSU
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:35 am to tigervet89
We’re you there when this happened. You sure sound like you were…….
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:35 am to lsupride87
What’s the key piece of evidence that you think makes him innocent?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:38 am to Lester Earl
quote:None, and there never could be. How do you prove you didnt molest someone. Seriously?
What’s the key piece of evidence that you think makes him innocent?
Thats the entire point, you put your entire faith to the judge.
This case was based on nothing besides him saying he didnt do it, and the girls mother saying he did. Remember the girl herself said she didnt recall it
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:40 am to Not Cooper
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He didn't play for Casey after the news came out
Well acktually..
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returned to the team the next season
And even the MLB won't touch him. A lefty who sits low-90s touching up to 96 with 3 legit pitches? The national pitcher of the year? Yea id trust MLBs due diligence over some leftist school president/baseball coach
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:41 am to Honkus
quote:This is the most illogical argument
nd even the MLB won't touch him. A lefty who sits low-90s touching up to 96 with 3 legit pitches? The national pitcher of the year? Yea id trust MLBs due diligence over some leftist school president/baseball coach
The MLB doesnt give a shite if he is innocent or guilty. They only care about fan reaction, they would happily play a guilty person if they could get a way with it, and they would happily shun an innocent person if they thought it was better for them
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 10:43 am
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:45 am to lsupride87
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None, and there never could be. How do you prove you didnt molest someone. Seriously?
Well one start would be not pleading guilty.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:46 am to lsupride87
Well sorry.. thems the breaks when you plead guilty to diddling a kid. And if you don't want to be associated with such a toxic situation you sever ties immediately.. no matter how good he throws ball
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:47 am to Choupique19
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If convicted the 15 year old might face 20 years in prison.
Well, this never happened because he was charged as a juvenile and would have served a few months in a detention center.
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Or you can take a plea deal to plead guilty to a laser charge
This didn’t happen either. He pled guilty to the charges brought against him.
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records of the case would be sealed forever (which was supposed to happen).
This would have happened regardless—again he was charged in juvenile court. Whether by plea or conviction, the records are sealed and can only be opened by court order.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:50 am to Fun Bunch
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It is very much in doubt that the kid did anything at all.
Heimlich wrote a confession stating that he molested the girl twice, at age 4 then 6. Confessed. Was not coerced. Confessed. Casey took him back into the OSU program, knowing what he had done, prior to the championship season. MLB will not touch Heimlich. He's bad news, and Casey brought back a confessed pedo to lead his team to a championship. The lack of moral clarity exhibited by some on this board to win at all costs escapes me.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:51 am to Honkus
quote:Actually the state broke their deal with the plea
thems the breaks when you plead guilty to diddling a kid
Regardless of how you feel, the state and law fricked up
quote:frick that, a weak Brees like man does that
And if you don't want to be associated with such a toxic situation you sever ties immediately.
Lets look at the facts here from the standpoint of only Casey:
Casey finds out a kid he knew for multiple years as a good kid has this past we are talking about.
The player tells him he absolutely didnt do it and its part of a plea his parents told him to take. His parents back this up that they told him to take the plea, and they also give the entire backstory of the mother changing her story MULTIPLE times
The psychiatrist he was foreced to talk with for years writes in a report that Heimlich maintained his innocence to her the entire time, and in her professional opinion she sees zero predator risk in Heimlich
So hearing all that, and from Caseys point of view there is a damn good chance he thinks Heimlich didnt do it
And you are sayign the good man, the Christian man, the whatever you want to call it still casts the player aside simply because its the easier thing to do? frick that. If Casey himself thought he was innocent, the right thing to do is let him back on the team. And thats actually taking the difficult path
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:52 am to OchoDedos
quote:Do you understand how plea deals work?
Heimlich wrote a confession stating that he molested the girl twice, at age 4 then 6. Confessed. Was not coerced. Confessed
Its so funny you responded to Bunch of all people with thatPosted on 6/10/21 at 10:54 am to Honkus
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And if you don't want to be associated with such a toxic situation you sever ties immediately.. no matter how good he throws ball
If only LSU would have followed this advice lol
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