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re: Where to move SEC office ...
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:23 am to Placebeaux
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:23 am to Placebeaux
Houston would be a great choice with large amount of LSU fans and Aggie fans and mixture of all fan bases.
Bama would cry foul because of the immense number of LSU fans there. They have been moving by the droves to Houston from Louisiana for decades.
Many like to take advantage of no state income tax, amazing schools, car insurance is 1/2, cheap electric, housing construction related costs cheaper as well
Bama would cry foul because of the immense number of LSU fans there. They have been moving by the droves to Houston from Louisiana for decades.
Many like to take advantage of no state income tax, amazing schools, car insurance is 1/2, cheap electric, housing construction related costs cheaper as well
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:27 am to MasonTiger
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Nashville
for the longest time I thought Atlanta would be best but i'm down with Nashville.
the biggest issue, imo, is the vast number of alabama grads or fans that are in the hierarchy in the SEC office. this is just wrong.
I doubt there is absolute proof of bias available but circumstantial proof abounds. the scheduling is a no brainer. remember the "temporary" schedules after expansion? bama avoiding the toughest East opponents and then they extended it and the same thing happened. meanwhile, in the west, LSU and Auburn get Florida and Georgia every year. Bama gets a walk and A&M does too with USC. add the head of officials and replay officials being gumps or gump friendly is bull shite.
the SEC is little better than the Big 12 with Tejas running the show.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:33 am to TigerCat33
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And if your going to head a particular department you cannot be a graduate of an SEC school. If you want to head up a department in a conference they have other conferences to choose from.
Honestly...it needs to go further than that, and in 2018 in certainly could.
For instance, I'm not an LSU alumnus. I grew up a fan, and my dad was an a lumnus...but my path led elsewhere and I graduated from another school. But I've always been an LSU fan, and have been a season ticket holder for 18 seasons.
Point is, simply being an alumnus is not NEARLY enough in a league that probably has far more sidewalk alumni than actual alumni is stadiums each Saturday...not to mention those who simply call themselves fans who never make it to a game.
A little research into a person's background and affiliations would need to be included in there as well.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:33 am to LSU GrandDad
nashville tenn
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:41 am to lsusalty
We could burn the sumbitch down, Ritter and Al will just have their REC real estate connections sell the SEC a new plot, right between the dodge dealership and the suit store.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:42 am to lsusalty
Shreveport.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:46 am to 7nette
Nashville
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:46 am to lsusalty
I'd like to know why people think moving the SEC office to a neutral site would prevent any possibility of malfeasance.
It's such a lazy argument, as if physical proximity of the office to any school has any correlation with bias for that school.
This is 2018, you could put the office at the North pole and if people wanted to cheat for a certain program it would still happen.
Where was the Bama bias in 2006, 2005, 2004?
It's such a lazy argument, as if physical proximity of the office to any school has any correlation with bias for that school.
This is 2018, you could put the office at the North pole and if people wanted to cheat for a certain program it would still happen.
Where was the Bama bias in 2006, 2005, 2004?
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 9:48 am
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:58 am to lsusalty
There’s some office space available right next to the Big 12 office in Irving, TX. Put it all in the same spot. Let the bama grads work for big 12.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:00 am to Goldrush25
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It's such a lazy argument, as if physical proximity of the office to any school has any correlation with bias for that school.
So you don't think that staffing the office responsible for hearing appeals and overseeing officiating and setting schedules with people indoctrinated and surrounded by fandom and hype for one particular school could sway some decisions, even subconsciously? And do you think having those in the highest positions of power be graduates or having business ties to that same organization is smart?
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Where was the Bama bias in 2006, 2005, 2004?
It's not like they are out and out cheating for the team - but they are in a place to stack the deck in subtle ways. The team has to also be good to begin with.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:10 am to Havoc
Put it on Gautier-Vancleave Road.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:18 am to Goldrush25
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Where was the Bama bias in 2006, 2005, 2004?
BAMA was on probation and had a less capable coaching staff so the impact of bias was less.
Things may have turned out different had Peterson's interception been confirmed in 2009, or the personal foul not been called on LSU in the waning minutes in 2014, or Hurts TD in 2016 been called back for multiple holdings.
You can give the trite argument those things happen, and they do but they tend to even out. With BAMA they don't even out and that is the problem.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:20 am to lsusalty
They are not going to uproot the office, whose clerical staff and most “worker bees” live in the area and suddenly relocate. Stop with that.
You want realistic change? How about fighting for oversight, a fair appeal process, a review panel of refs from another conference, etc.
You want realistic change? How about fighting for oversight, a fair appeal process, a review panel of refs from another conference, etc.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:22 am to lsusalty
Memphis would be a great location albeit a little close to Oxford. Dallas would be another good city to consider.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:22 am to tigersbb
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BAMA was on probation and had a less capable coaching staff so the impact of bias was less.
Sure miss those days for Bama
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:23 am to lsusalty
Nashville makes the most sense to me. Large enough city, and the school there isn't a threat.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:25 am to tigersbb
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BAMA was on probation and had a less capable coaching staff so the impact of bias was less.
Why were they on probation? Did they have to be caught cheating if there was a concerted effort to help them prosper?
It's just lazy. They're great, the office is in their state, so that must have something to do with it. There was not one word of Alabama bias when they sucked.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:26 am to tigersbb
[quote]BAMA was on probation and had a less capable coaching staff so the impact of bias was less.
And yet, as I've pointed out many times, every year since 2000 BAMA has had far fewer penalties than LSU. Even when Nick Saban, Lord of Discipline, was LSU's coach and the likes of Mike Dubose, Franchione and Mike Shula were on the other sidelines. They were not always the least penalized in the conference, but always upper half...regardless of the quality of team and regardless of the quality of coaches.
And it's a great test case given both schools had Saban. Somehow, his LSU teams were undisciplined and flag prone, but his BAMA squads are super clean.
It's almost like there are other factors at work...
And yet, as I've pointed out many times, every year since 2000 BAMA has had far fewer penalties than LSU. Even when Nick Saban, Lord of Discipline, was LSU's coach and the likes of Mike Dubose, Franchione and Mike Shula were on the other sidelines. They were not always the least penalized in the conference, but always upper half...regardless of the quality of team and regardless of the quality of coaches.
And it's a great test case given both schools had Saban. Somehow, his LSU teams were undisciplined and flag prone, but his BAMA squads are super clean.
It's almost like there are other factors at work...
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:35 am to Goldrush25
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It's just lazy. They're great, the office is in their state, so that must have something to do with it. There was not one word of Alabama bias when they sucked.
Ther has long been examples of the bias dating back to the Bar Bryant days. The three year period you used was an aberration brought on by poor coaching selection and probation.
The probaion was from the NCAA, not the SEC office.
Had Saban not been available in 2006 or had Rich Rodrigue not backed out of taking the job the bias would not have been so impactful. Now its a lethal coimbination.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:36 am to lsusalty
Oklahoma City. I'll run it.
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