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Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:53 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:We're talking about designed run plays.
One of the biggest issues that Daniels causes is no one knows what the frick he's going to do. It works in our favor sometimes and sometimes it ends in dropped passes, missed blocks, etc
FSU stuffed us because they won matchups.
It had nothing to do with how they did or didn't respect Daniels in the passing game, they did not stack the box all night. They simply won individual matchups in the trenches.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:56 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Is it scheme? Denbrock displays absolutely zero creativity in run plays. Quality of RBs, ability of the lineman? All of the above?
Denbrock is blue bell vanilla. Kelly likes this style of offense. It was pointed out when Kelly was hired.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:56 pm to shel311
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We're talking about designed run plays.
FSU stuffed us because they won matchups.
It had nothing to do with how they did or didn't respect Daniels in the passing game, they did not stack the box all night. They simply won individual matchups in the trenches.
They weren't stacking the box presnap but their linebackers and safeties were constantly surging down to the LOS and stuffing the backs.
I'm not sure what you were watching.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:57 pm to da prophet
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Teams have started to defense the run because Daniels is shitty downfield passer. It’s only going to get worse, it’s Nuss or bust.
A guy making 10 mil a year can't understand that.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 1:59 pm to SidewalkTiger
They did the same thing Arky did last season. Man outside with two players free in the middle 5 and 10 yards off the LOS. So we had 6 blocking 8 pretty much all night.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:02 pm to shel311
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it wouldn't make the Oline get dominated any less than they did last night.
There were only a few times were the OL was legitimately one on one beat. That's going to happen. The issue is our OL players can't block 2 men at the same time. When defenses stack the box with safeties creeping up there will always be an extra man to block. It's easy to stop the run when you have an un-blocked defender. They don't respect JD's ability to throw past 15 yard over the middle. It make defense easy and fun to play at that point.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:04 pm to GumboPot
FSU's top 5 leading tacklers were mostly defensive backs with a linebacker or two.
The majority of their TFL's were by DB's and LB's.
The majority of their TFL's were by DB's and LB's.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:14 pm to Madking
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They did the same thing Arky did last season. Man outside with two players free in the middle 5 and 10 yards off the LOS. So we had 6 blocking 8 pretty much all night.
There is something you can do to counter this defense. Hmm...JD has entire off season to address this issue. I wonder what happened? Too bad you can't counter this defense on X-Box then he would have known.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:15 pm to GumboPot
quote:It was nearly every run we tried.
There were only a few times were the OL was legitimately one on one beat
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:16 pm to Lsuhoohoo
The second Nussmeier goes into the game, the running game will make a massive leap because every DC in college football knows they have to send extra help to the backfield.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:21 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:1 DB had 0.5 TFL. And LBs with TFL do not prove a stacked box at all. And their LBs only had 2 total TFL.
The majority of their TFL's were by DB's and LB's.
quote:LSU completed 22 passes, Daniels had 15 runs, with quite a few going pass the 1st level.
FSU's top 5 leading tacklers were mostly defensive backs with a linebacker or two.
LSU RBs had 12 carries
So yea, of course DBs will have a lot of tackles, they were tackling WRs.
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:21 pm to Madking
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They did the same thing Arky did last season
After Arky figured out how to shutdown JD, ATM, Georgia and FSU in the second half followed the blueprint and did it successfully. It will be tried by any SEC team that has the matching talent level.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:24 pm to GumboPot
It’s too many plays for a game manager type QB. I don’t blame the QB, if that’s who the coach wants out there you have to call the game accordingly.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:25 pm to shel311
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1 DB had 0.5 TFL. And LBs with TFL do not prove a stacked box at all. And their LBs only had 2 total TFL.
They weren't stacking the box, they were just coming down as soon as the ball was snapped.
It was pointed out at least twice during the broadcast, including right before halftime (when JD5 couldn't get the ball to Nabers).
Again, I'm not sure what you were watching.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:26 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:Then that doesn't explain 1 YPC outside of the 1 big run.
They weren't stacking the box, they were just coming down as soon as the ball was snapped
If this were the case, the RB would be met farther down field than the LOS.
Fact is, DL kept winning matchups and either meeting or allowing the LB to come in and meet the RB at the LOS.
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:31 pm to shel311
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Then that doesn't explain 1 YPC outside of the 1 big run.
If this were the case, the RB would be met farther down field than the LOS.
Fact is, DL kept winning matchups and either meeting or allowing the LB to come in and meet the RB at the LOS.
Exactly.
The linebackers weren't respecting the passing threat at all so the defensive line and linebackers were just teeing off and rushing the passer or stuffing the run. And a few times, the safeties got involved as well.
JD5 made them pay a few times, a couple of short passes that the receivers got big YAC on and several scrambles where he got out of trouble. Not nearly enough though.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:34 pm to Raz
Bruh the safeties were in 2 high all night. Please stop saying this idiotic shite. We got stuffed by there front 7. At times there was only 6 in the box.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:36 pm to shel311
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That's a poor excuse. We didn't struggle to run because FSU stacked the box last night, that's where you're wrong. We struggled to run because their Dline dominated our Oline in the run game.
Exactly.
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