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re: What's the real story behind Clifton Garrett?
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:38 pm to bwallcubfan
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:38 pm to bwallcubfan
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It's always hard to predict how good a kid is when he has crap for competition.
This is exactly why a stud HS RB like Ridley didn't get solid offers but from Ole Miss and LSU. Played in a very small class of private schools.
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Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:40 pm to Lester Earl
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also where did you get the info he was 5th among LBs on his own team in tackles?
From Arizona Western's NJCAA stat page
They actually have some talent at LB, beleive they have 2 other LBs going to P5 schools (both had more tackles than Garrett).
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:41 pm to Lester Earl
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i dont know why he chose UAB. He had better offers. Good luck to the kid.
He definitely had an Auburn offer but I'd be iffy on that FSU offer.
IMO he knew he's simply not good enough to get paying time at schools like that after LSU so he chose the safest option which is go to the team that doesnt have any competition really for him.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:41 pm to Chad504boy
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How can the highschool recruiting world screw up the ratings of a player so bad?
Look no further than the NFL draft every year with a much larger and more significant sample of players and virtually unlimited resources to evaluate.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:42 pm to thunderbird1100
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From Arizona Western's NJCAA stat page
did you look at the game logs?
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:44 pm to Lester Earl
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did you look at the game logs?
They dont have the whole season posted but like 6 games or so:
LINK
And actually I was wrong, he was 6th on the team in tackles among LBs.
LB David Luafatasaga is going to Ole Miss
LB William Johnson is going to Nebraska
This post was edited on 10/26/15 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:47 pm to Salmon
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the coaches did though
since they didn't put him in real games where he could cost us a loss, it doesn't count
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:49 pm to Lester Earl
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We didnt see enough of this kid to tell if he wasnt good or not.
I would normally agree, but the simple fact that his landing spot was UAB tells me he likely wasnt very good.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:52 pm to thunderbird1100
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They dont have the whole season posted but like 6 games or so:
yeah, and in games 1 and 2:
6tck 2 TFL 1 sack 1 FF
6 tck 2 TFL 1 FF
then he isnt listed in participating in any other game. I highly doubt he went from playing and playing well in the first 2 games to not playing at all. He's likely been hurt from game 3 on because his season stats matchup pretty much with games 1 and 2.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:55 pm to lsuhunt555
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I would normally agree, but the simple fact that his landing spot was UAB tells me he likely wasnt very good.
what if he would have picked Auburn?
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:57 pm to Lester Earl
didn't take you for a clifton garrett knight
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:59 pm to ell_13
Im not, im just wondering how everyone came to the conclusion that he sucked.
No one has really been able to answer. Its kind of embarrassing.
No one has really been able to answer. Its kind of embarrassing.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:01 pm to Lester Earl
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just curious, but based on what?
him leaving made our LB numbers even thinner. To the point where a guy like Voorhies was moved to LB. Did our coaches run him off? what do you know that we dont?
I don't think anyone can deny some guys take longer than others, but CG did not take football that seriously. Lots of posts on here and 24/7 have made it clear he was more interested in tigerland than the weight room. He was overrated coming out of HS, and didn't want to put in the work to be a guy who grows into his ranking.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:02 pm to Lester Earl
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Im not, im just wondering how everyone came to the conclusion that he sucked.
No one has really been able to answer. Its kind of embarrassing.
Timeline:
- Comes to LSU to backup Beckwith
- Going into 2nd year is about 4th string on the depth chart at MLB behind Feist (who is now a FB) and a walk on
- Leaves for Arizona Western CC, sits 6th on tackles among LBs
- Has offers from Auburn and FSU supposedly but chooses...UAB? A team that doesnt exist till 2017
Put the puzzle pieces together
This post was edited on 10/26/15 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:06 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Lots of posts on here and 24/7 have made it clear he was more interested in tigerland than the weight room.
well yea, that's kind of different then him sucking or not being talented. He also tore the labrum in his shoulder in january 14'. That lingered well into the summer
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:06 pm to crewdepoo
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He wasn't that good
Doesn't stop the Trey Quinn fans.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:07 pm to Lester Earl
This situation reminds me of the Adam Maconathy deal. I think it was around 1999-2000, maybe Saban's first year? He was Mr. Louisiana in football, and the best player in the state. He was a LB, and was heavily recruited, signed with LSU, ran a 4.6 40. He showed up on campus considered the next big thing.
During early practice, he wasn't listed as a starter on the list released to the public. His dad went off in the press about it. Bottom line, dude quit before he played. LSU fans freaked, couldn't believe we were losing best LB ever. He got released to go wherever he wanted, and he transferred to Texas. Never played, then transferred to LA Tech, and was a reserve for a year, I think. HUGE flop.
Anybody else remember that debacle?
During early practice, he wasn't listed as a starter on the list released to the public. His dad went off in the press about it. Bottom line, dude quit before he played. LSU fans freaked, couldn't believe we were losing best LB ever. He got released to go wherever he wanted, and he transferred to Texas. Never played, then transferred to LA Tech, and was a reserve for a year, I think. HUGE flop.
Anybody else remember that debacle?
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:07 pm to Lester Earl
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Im not, im just wondering how everyone came to the conclusion that he sucked.
Why do the fans need to come to a conclusion when they coaches didn't see fit to play the kid after watching him every day for 2 years? That is the issue with your whole argument.
The evidence is there that he is a marginal player. An offer from Auburn is not exactly a ringing endorsement of the type of players LSU needs. Their only LB commit is a 3*, and they are not in on any top LBs other than Ben Davis.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:08 pm to SG_Geaux
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Doesn't stop the Trey Quinn fans.
Trey Quinn is on the field routinely, unfortunately, just to block.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:11 pm to ULSU
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Why do the fans need to come to a conclusion when they coaches didn't see fit to play the kid after watching him every day for 2 years? That is the issue with your whole argument.
Like Deion Jones? Does he suck too?
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