re: What’s The Ceiling For Our Men’s Basketball Team?

Lester get off the whiskey this morning:

He was not a 5 star recruit!!! read that again!!!!!

6th best shooting guard in the country but couldn't get more than 10 points against Loyola Chicago last year.

Look he was going to be a solid player for us....but wouldn't have been our best player.

Reid, Days, Pinson, Miller, those were going to be our top scorers and anyone could have put up top numbers each night. I expected Miller to give us 11-12 points per game. We gonna get a combined effort from Brandon, Mwani, and Justice with Miller out.

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Look he was going to be a solid player for us....but wouldn't have been our best player.

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Best player can be defined in a lot of ways, but Miller had as good a shot as any entering this season to be our best player honestly. I'm one to pretty much never defend LE but he's not wrong in that he could have been our best player. There was certainly some hype there around him. I'm under the impression our "best player" this year wont really be head and shoulders above everyone else though, either.

Losing him just puts us in such a bad spot at guard now. We only have Pinson, Gaines, Murray and Williams as our true guards now and things have been way too quiet on Williams' injury situation if you ask me. I hope that guy is ready to go because we'll need him.

You're the same guy who claimed Tremont Waters wasn't our best PG a few years back. Can't take you serious since then.

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but I would bet Murray likely starts at the 2 guard spot.

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Murray is my best guess to who Wade gravitates for offense. He’s assertive & has the best combination of ball handling & scoring acumen of all the other guards

Honestly think you see Mwani start at the 3, too, and have one of the other guys come off the bench. He loves Wilkinson. That’s his tone setter

Then finish the rotation with Days-Eason or Days-Reid

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Best player can be defined in a lot of ways, but Miller had as good a shot as any entering this season to be our best player honestly. I'm one to pretty much never defend LE but he's not wrong in that he could have been our best player. There was certainly some hype there around him. I'm under the impression our "best player" this year wont really be head and shoulders above everyone else though, either.

Losing him just puts us in such a bad spot at guard now. We only have Pinson, Gaines, Murray and Williams as our true guards now and things have been way too quiet on Williams' injury situation if you ask me. I hope that guy is ready to go because we'll need him.

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"Best player" is relative. IMO, it's not JUST the guy who is the leading scorer. That said, Miller was no doubt going to be one of LSU's top scorers. Maybe the top scorer. But I don't think it was going to be like last season where Thomas had the green light to take any and as many shots as he wanted. So while Miller may have been the top scorer is was probably only only going to be by 1-3 points (per game), not something where Miller averaged 7-8 ppg more than the second leading scorer.

The biggest thing is that his loss probably changes the way LSU thought they were going to play this season. Wade probably felt he had an experienced backcourt that would lead the way, whereas now he may have to become more of a "frontcourt" team. An approach maybe more similar to 18-19 where LSU was a bad outside shooting team. As such, LSU's offense evolved into one where the goal was just to "get the ball on the rim" to either score inside, get to the FT line, or let the great offensive rebounders get second chance points. That's how LSU had a top 15 offense despite being one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in the country.

Days is a great rebounder. Eason was a very good rebounder last season (and his stats vs. NSU suggest that will again be the case). While not known as big strength of his, because of his sheer size one would think Reid would be at least an average rebounder. So while the initial plan may have been for Miller to take something like 6-7 three point attempts per game, some of those 3 point attempts now become drives to the basket by other guards.

At the end of the day though I think even without Miller LSU will still score. The success, or lack thereof, was ALWAYS going to be tied to whether or not this team actually wants to defend anyone. One player wasn't going to be the difference there. It was going to take a full commitment from EVERYONE...including the head coach.

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6th best shooting guard in the country but couldn't get more than 10 points against Loyola Chicago last year.

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Lester is a moron that thinks Seneca knight is the second coming of Michael Jordan, but you’re doing a really good job of making him look like a genius in this thread.

You cherry pick 1 game on Miller to talk about him scoring 10 points, while talking about how great Xavier pinson is. The same Xavier pinson that scored 2 points on 1/7 shooting in the tournament against Oklahoma in the tournament last year.

Miller was the #33 player in the country as a recruit. He was much closer to being a 5 star than the #33 sg like you said he was.

Miller was going to be a very important piece of this year’s team. It’s already been pointed out how he was on a loaded, guard heavy Illinois team where he wasnt asked to be a leading scorer. He was also 1 of 3 players on the U19 USA team this summer to average over 20 minutes per game. The only possible worse players to lose for the year are days and Reid . Of the guards on the roster, Miller is absolutely the last one anyone would have wanted to lose for the year.

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Lester is a moron that thinks Seneca knight is the second coming of Michael Jordan,

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Nah, but he’s going to look like Jordan compared to what LSU now has to throw out on the perimeter between Pinson, Gaines & Wilkinson

Don’t go disappearing on me this basketball season hoss

You can’t even spell his name right

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Nah, but he’s going to look like Jordan compared to what LSU now has to throw out on the perimeter between Pinson, Gaines & Wilkinson

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That must be why he ran away from lsu back to a mid-major school coming off the bench rather than competing against those players for playing time.