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re: What were your thoughts on LSU's offense this weekend

Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:27 pm to
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I’ll start. More at bats for the guys that get on base the most = good.



Interesting.

Stanfield is a good hitter, but he’s not a big run producer. He never has been. He’s the exact type of player that strategy was created for.

Hey, what do all the managers who’ve utilized the second leadoff man to maximize runs know compared to you guys though?
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:28 pm to
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Jay did well to pad the preconference with scrub teams which inflated all of our numbers as it turned out

We’re still higher ranked in runs scored than homeruns hit looking at only SEC play lol. Again, your math ain’t mathing. There’s enough to complain about with the offense to throw shitty comments out and hope it sticks.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:30 pm to
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He’d be a better leadoff than Curiel, who has a higher OPB and has reached base in every game this season?
In conference play Stanfield has a higher AVG, SLG, and OB% than Curiel. Hit them 1-2 in whatever order you want but you now have an 18 game sample, it isn’t just a random good weekend.

You’re better off making an argument that Stanfield is only doing this because he’s hitting 9th, not in spite of it, instead of saying he has to stay there to have a double lead off.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 10:32 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:34 pm to
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Stanfield is a good hitter, but he’s not a big run producer. He never has been. He’s the exact type of player that strategy was created for.

Maybe he hasn’t been a big run producer because he’s been at the bottom of the lineup. Braswell fits that exact description and can take over the 2nd leadoff spot if you want.
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Chris Stanfield just hit his 12th SEC double. Since Jay Johnson took over at LSU, the most anyone has hit is 12(Tommy White- 2023) Stanfield did it in just 16 games.

I look at that stat and think to myself myself that he could be a run producer if guys in front of him get on base. Or think about if he is getting all of those doubles at the top of the lineup. You want Curiel to stay in the leadoff spot? Fine, Stanfield can hit behind him and drive him in with all those doubles.
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Hey, what do all the managers who’ve utilized the second leadoff man to maximize runs know compared to you guys though?

How many managers have the guy with the highest conference batting average (by a large margin) hitting in the 9 hole? I don’t know the answer to that question, but I bet it’s not many.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 10:38 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:34 pm to
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He’d be a better leadoff than Curiel, who has a higher OPB and has reached base in every game this season?


Stanfield has a better Ob% and BA in conference play

Stanfield
Curiel
Daniels
jones
Brown
Hernandez
Milam
Pearson
Braswell

Brawswell gives
you another high BA/Ob% guy in the 9 hole
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50439 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:38 pm to
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You’re better off making an argument that Stanfield is only doing this because he’s hitting 9th, not in spite of it, instead of saying he has to stay there to have a double lead off.


I’m not saying he has to stay there, but I definitely wouldn’t move Curiel out of leadoff and Stanfield isn’t a producer, so I’m not putting him in the 2-3-4-5 holes either. So it’s either go 2nd leadoff strategy or bury Stanfield in the 6 hole where he still isn’t seeing more ABs.

The point is Stanfield is the prototype player for that strategy, even more so than Curiel.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:38 pm to
daniels is an interesting choice for the 3 hole
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:39 pm to
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You’re better off making an argument that Stanfield is only doing this because he’s hitting 9th, not in spite of it, instead of saying he has to stay there to have a double lead off.


Which may be the cause. Stanfield struggled at lead off initially, but has flourished in the nine hole. It could be psychological.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:40 pm to
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but I definitely wouldn’t move Curiel out of leadoff and Stanfield isn’t a producer,

Can you come up with a better argument to keep stanfield out of the top of the lineup, besides that he doesnt produce enough rbi’s? Because thats easily correlated to the offense around him
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50439 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:41 pm to
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Brawswell gives you another high BA/Ob% guy in the 9 hole


Braswell is slow. Defeats the purpose
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50439 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:42 pm to
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Can you come up with a better argument to keep stanfield out of the top of the lineup, besides that he doesnt produce enough rbi’s? Because thats easily correlated to the offense around him


I’ve posted it several times. He’s perfect for the strategy if you have another viable leadoff hitter, which LSU does.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30371 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:43 pm to
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Stanfield struggled at lead off initially,
He batted lead off 5 times.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30371 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:44 pm to
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I’m not saying he has to stay there,
Yes you are with your “that’s where Jay has him so it obviously has to be correct” stance.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16835 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:48 pm to
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He batted lead off 5 times.

And he got a hit in 4 of those 5 games. And had a .375 batting average in those games.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 10:51 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81777 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:49 pm to
So because lsu has another good hitter, we should have one of our other 2/3 best hitting 9? Wow
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50439 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:51 pm to
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Yes you are with your “that’s where Jay has him so it obviously has to be correct” stance.


It’s the correct spot if he’s using the 2nd leadoff strategy, which he appears to be.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:52 pm to
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Stanfield struggled at lead off initially
i think he only led off the first 5 games of the year

he hit .375 in those games i believe
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50439 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:52 pm to
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So because lsu has another good hitter, we should have one of our other 2/3 best hitting 9? Wow


See below.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16835 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:56 pm to
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It’s the correct spot if he’s using the 2nd leadoff strategy, which he appears to be.

What if there’s a better strategy?
Stanfield team rankings in conference play:
Batting average - 1st
Slugging percentage - 1st
On base percentage - 2nd

You haven’t responded to my question about how many managers have their best conference hitter in the 9 hole. I also don’t understand why you think he can’t be a run producer hitting behind Curiel. Or why he can’t hit in front of Curiel and let Curiel be the run producer.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 11:02 pm
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:56 pm to
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I am a big homer
Big Homer = Pump Nut Cheerleader MA.
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