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re: What is the intent of NIL?

Posted on 12/18/21 at 8:31 am to
Posted by rockynoggin
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Member since Sep 2012
240 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 8:31 am to
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We're already paying as follows:

1. Full ride scholarship (estimate worth 135k-200k)
2. Professional coaching
3. Professional conditioning and training
4. Special Tutoring and counseling
5. Nutritional training
5a. Professional Physical therapy as needed
6. Play on TV almost every game (ticket to fame) LSU did that!!!!
7. Massive love and support from fans just suiting up in the purple and gold


1. Not all players get full ride
2. A necessity for a winning team
3. See number 2
4. See number 2
5. See number 2
5a. See number 2
6. LSU gets paid to play on TV, not the players
7. You can't spend that
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55632 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 8:32 am to
TL:DR

You're ignoring reality and being willfully ignorant. The intent of NIL is so that student athletes can now profit off of their name, image and likeness. Thats it. Yes, there are a bunch of holes and issues but the intent is not to give someone an allowance dedicated for certain purchases.

Have a great weekend
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
54947 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 8:36 am to
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Of course you don't know either, I take it, since you didn't answer my question. Tell me what you know about said deal.


In summary...the entire conversation is a waste of our time.

I love to talk about politics and how America could get better if we could actually hold the elected officials accountable

. similar to being a taxpayer, as fans we have no control over any of this...

Its all a waste of our precious time...

I'm done here






Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7586 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 8:52 am to
The NIL buble will burst within a few years. Companies that are legitimately sponsoring players to represent their brand will soon realize that too many top players will transfer, sit out bowl games, sit out entire seasons, etc. It will eventually just become boosters funneling money to prospects and will further separate the “haves”from the “have nots” - and more strict rules will be put in.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6796 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 8:54 am to
Million dollar deals based on Name, Image and Likeness for a bunch of obscure high school players only the Recruiting Board knows.

K.
Posted by RayJin
Member since Apr 2015
147 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:23 am to
Students were offered a college education, if the student played football(sports for the university). That was the compensation(not only given to the students but agreed upon by the students) for years. Things are changing and, right now for the majority, it is not looking good.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21658 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:24 am to
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universities exist for higher learning not for football.


Yet you are obsessed with following college football like many others. You went to bed & got up this morning bitching about a change that allows college athletes to make advertising money now on a message board about college football.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450394 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:33 am to
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Sir, you're implying that 7 figure deal would happen if the player wouldn't be wearing a certain uniform on Saturday...

Everyone knows...Young being the Bama QB is the marketing...behind the big figures.

Young would be getting 7-figures wherever he went b/c he's a good QB. Bama, USC, LSU, OU, Oregon etc. is irrelevant. It's HIS likeness that's valuable.

quote:

Young had not yet started his first game...

It was a calculated guess he would be great...as Bama QB...

Yeah, that's how marketing and endorsements work most of the time.

quote:

The Jackson State recruit won't be on TV thus a horrible investment

He's going to be on a Barstool reality show, brother.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450394 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:33 am to
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I'm am for freedom...but I'm also for common sense...

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450394 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:34 am to
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Have you noticed that when players come on a recruiting trip they dress them out in a uniform take photos and say Hey this looks good on you..


That's marketing for the university, not the recruit
Posted by Gadzooks
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2020
291 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:52 am to
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you're a moran


I know a few Moran's and they were fairly decent people.

But moron's tend to be a little different. Kind of like a post where you don't have anything intelligent to contribute so you call someone a name.

That is a little more moronic.

Back to the original reply, let me try to help you with this idea. How about you go to work every day. You put in endless hours of hard work. Blood, sweat and tears. Because of this you build up recognition and companies swoop in and start selling merchandise with your name on it. They recognize millions of dollars in revenue. You keep working, they keep getting paid. But no soup for you.

Just because you're a student doesn't mean you should have to give up your rights. These freedoms should extend to all people. If you don't like the opportunity of being able to forge any future you want, there are countries on this planet that are more than happy to dictate and control your life for you.

NIL presents an opportunity for players to make money and a lot of it. Sure there are going to be bumps and bruises. There will be challenges and over time things will smooth out. But I would say that getting paid under the table was a much more problematic issue. I'm not suggesting this eliminates that, but it will mitigate the problem.

We live in a country that presents a free market. There is a market for NIL. Why shouldn't the very people who make that market possible be able to participate in the rewards?

Or maybe I'm just a "moran" too.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31266 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 10:15 am to
NIL has nothing to do with players getting paid by the university. They are private endorsements that players weren’t allowed to get based on their name, image and likeness being used by businesses without their consent and monetary compensation. The Supreme Court agrees what was happening was wrong. It’s common sense and the basis of this very country - individual freedom.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59297 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 10:30 am to
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Is it not to pay for misc. expenses during college years many players do NOT have access to from their parents?


No. You invented that.

quote:

The intent, - correct me if I am wrong is to address the issue of money needed to attend college that scholarship money doesn't cover and monies that were deemed "illegal" to "give" to student athletes by the NCAA


You are wrong.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
54947 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 10:42 am to
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That's marketing for the university, not the recruit


It's marketing both the university and the player.

All these kids immediately put these images on their social media platforms...

"Look at me friends, can you see me playing for this school?"...

When they do this, is it marketing a recruit, a Student, a player or an employee? Which is it?

regardless, LSU is funding their college experience, providing everything they need to be developed and to be successful.








Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31266 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:01 am to
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regardless, LSU is funding their college experience, providing everything they need to be developed and to be successful.


They’re already successful by making it to LSU and generating millions for sponsors. They deserve a cut of that money. It’s America.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
54947 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:02 am to
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NIL has nothing to do with players getting paid by the university. They are private endorsements that players weren’t allowed to get based on their name, image and likeness being used by businesses without their consent and monetary compensation. The Supreme Court agrees what was happening was wrong. It’s common sense and the basis of this very country - individual freedom.


I agree but you can't sign big endorsements without assurance the player plays for the university. Why would a business be that dumb right? They wouldn't...

a HS football player's name is worthless until he sets foot on a university campus with big time organized football...

You can't spin your way around the fact that value is provide by the NCAA, the traditions, the stadiums, the alumni, the education, ...the institutions and the competition created by the NCAA...

Universities would survive without football... because the world needs an education more than it needs to be entertained. One is a need the other a want.

football as we know it today would not survive without universities.

with out fans loving their schools as they do, you could never get a farm league that preps for the NFL like we have today in college football...

It wouldn't work financially...

The value of a player's name is skyrocketed when they sign a scholarship.

But now we talked ourselves into believing that's not fair to not allow players to make money off this "partnership"




This post was edited on 12/18/21 at 11:05 am
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31266 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:08 am to
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I agree but you can't sign big endorsements without assurance the player plays for the university. Why would a business be that dumb right? They wouldn't...


Yes and the university also makes money off the endorsements. A lot more than players would make. LSU will not make less money due to NIL.

Overall I don’t disagree a balance and regulations are needed just like any professional operation. But to suggest players should’nt get a cut of their personal likeness because they’re “amateurs” is just laughable.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37692 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:11 am to
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In summary...the entire conversation is a waste of our time.


Damn it, we agree
Posted by patchesohoulihan_007
Member since Jul 2015
2338 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:18 am to
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but without the University, there is no team


And without the talent of these kids the billions of dollars generated would be gone.

I would be happy to see more of the kids get a cut in the money. The old way you just have slime ball billionaires getting richer off ad revenue and the deals. They don’t do anything the kids generate the eyes

I wish there was a cap in the money so teams couldn’t bid on players. But this is better than the old way.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21658 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:30 am to
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All these kids immediately put these images on their social media platforms...


How would you know this? You said last night that you don't follow recruits on their social media accounts.
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