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re: What is Kelly hiding?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:58 pm to DrEdgeLSU
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:58 pm to DrEdgeLSU
That is a good question.
The for cause section says it has to go through the president TO the employee. The not for cause just says TO the employee.
Does a website infer it is from the president or TO the employee?
Does written also include an electronic website?
The for cause section says it has to go through the president TO the employee. The not for cause just says TO the employee.
Does a website infer it is from the president or TO the employee?
Does written also include an electronic website?
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:58 pm to Lester Earl
quote:You post stuff I disagree with, sometimes, but there are always reasons behind it.
I thought it was just me, mingy.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:59 pm to Nutriaitch
quote:
in the public press release they said
“LSU Athletics has made the decision to separate with football head coach Brian Kelly effective immediately”
that statement was released in Oct 27.
I don’t think this would stand up as a formal termination. Again, it could point to a suspension of duties pending formal termination.
In no way is it clean, but I bet LSU’s attorneys are trying to say he wasn’t formally terminated yet if he’s having to sue for a declaration of standing with his employer.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:02 pm to mdomingue
quote:
You post stuff I disagree with, sometimes,
I refuse to believe that mingy
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:06 pm to Adam Banks
quote:He was offered $25 million on the morning he was fired. They called later that day to offer $30 million. If that doesn't start a "clock" for negotiations, I don't know what does.
He sends an email to wanting to start negotiations on a lump sum trying to start the 7 day timer.
To me this shows how dumb Scott was in negotiating. I don't know what coach would accept a buyout in the same meeting they were fired without talking to a lawyer and their agent. Yet they call up a few hours later to up the offer when he didn't have enough time to react to the 1st offer.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:13 pm to RB10
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That’s not his salary that would be his buyout agreement. Nothing says that’s been settled yet.
Right. Which is why he getting his salary right now bc that what he’s entitled to under the contract’s termination clause. He gets paid his full salary until the contract term ends EVEN if he’s terminated.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:14 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
Adam Banks
Well that’s certainly a new take on this situation
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:15 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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A smart legal move would be: —Reinstate —Send notice —Wait out cure period —Fire him again
I would laugh my arse off if he was on the sideline for Arkansas or WKU
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:18 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
I refuse to believe that mingy
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:18 pm to TigerGrad03
quote:
Moscona made a comment on the Locked on Podcast today about if Kelly were to win, the money would have to be appropriated by the state legislature since the suit is against the state. He said there is apparently $300M of awards owed by the state to people that are just hung up becasue the state hasn't or can't budget them in. This could be another leverage point from LSU. If Kelly doesn't take a lower buy out amount they will let it go to court, Kelly will probably win, and then the state will take it's sweet time appropriating the funds.
That is a very risky move when trying to hire a new coach.
What coach would sign a contract if the state could turn around and say “sure we owe you money but we don’t have it so good luck trying to get it”
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:18 pm to MikeBRLA
quote:
Right. Which is why he getting his salary right now bc that what he’s entitled to under the contract’s termination clause. He gets paid his full salary until the contract term ends EVEN if he’s terminated.
I’m just going by what they’re saying, and LSU is saying he isn’t officially terminated. Therefore his salary payments are continuing until he is and the official buyout is agreed upon.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:20 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
And LSU maintains he has not been formally fired yet so cause is on the table.
He is trying to backdate the official termination date so that LSU doesn’t have the negotiation chip of a “cause” firing
I just want to learn about the psychology of people who say things like you are here.
Do you actually believe anybody is fooled or impressed by these maneuvers? Do you think it makes you smarter than everyone else? What do you get out of this charade emotionally, especially when it's not even your money at stake?
I get why LSU is doing what it's doing. What it's doing is extremely scummy and obviously shady, but $54 million is $54 million. But what do you get out of embarrassing yourself like this?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:21 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
And LSU maintains he has not been formally fired yet so cause is on the
I’m genuinely curious how they can maintain that assertion.
He was fired, it was announced, there is an interim coach.
If he wasn’t formally fired, Why isn’t he still coaching?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:23 pm to MikeBRLA
quote:
Right. Which is why he getting his salary right now bc that what he’s entitled to under the contract’s termination clause. He gets paid his full salary until the contract term ends EVEN if he’s terminated.
First off, I don’t think we know what he’s “getting” right now. His normal compensation is payable monthly and he was fired at the end of October so it’s not entirely clear whether any changes to his pay would have taken effect yet.
Second, he doesn’t get paid his full salary until the contract ends if he’s terminated. He gets paid 90% of the remaining contract value (which, notably, is not 90% of his current pay because of the way the annual pay is structured) in equal monthly installments. This would almost certainly be a different value than his normal monthly pay while employed.
But without having insight into Kelly’s exact pay dates and payment values, I don’t think anyone can draw conclusions one way or another about what those payments mean in the grand scheme of things.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:26 pm to Adam Banks
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LSU maintains that they have not issued the written termination.
Where has LSU said this?
quote:
Hence Kelly trying to start a paper trail.
You keep saying this and saying it has something to do with the 7-day clock. It does not. I get wanting to have it in writing...but it has nothing to do with a clock.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:26 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
LSU has not issued the notice
Is a formal announcement that he has been relieved of his coaching duties and an interim coach has been out in his place not considered “notice”
Seems like a pretty fricking public notice.
And maybe what you say true from a purely legal sense, but is that worth the PR nightmare that will come from it? You think any cos h worth his salt is going to come here knowing that’s how the school and state do business?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:28 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
No shite.
LSU maintains that they have not issued the written termination.
That is the entire argument.
Hence Kelly trying to start a paper trail.
Kelly tried to start a paper trail immediately acknowledging he was fired without cause. That’s.. prudent, and he would be a fool not to do so (just like LSU would be somewhat foolish to not immediately start a paper trail saying he was fired without cause if that was their stance).
But that paper trail has absolutely nothing to do with the “7 day timer” you so confidently referenced in your OP.
ETA: Again, back-dating the clock on that 7-day cure period would actually be very bad for Kelly because it would mean he had not addressed whatever issue led to the firing.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:30 pm to DrEdgeLSU
quote:
LSU maintains that they have not issued the written termination. Where has LSU said this?
That is literally the entire purpose of this suit.
Kelly wants a judge to rule that he has been terminated weeks ago and that since he was terminated and not notified for cause LSU didn’t give him a 7day cure period.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:31 pm to DrEdgeLSU
quote:
Where has LSU said this?
There’s an entire thread about it stickied to the top of the board.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:32 pm to lostinbr
quote:
But that paper trail has absolutely nothing to do with the “7 day timer” you do confidently referenced in your OP. ETA: Again, back-dating the clock on that 7-day cure period would actually be very bad for Kelly because it would mean he had not addressed whatever issue led to the firing.
It was poorly worded.
He is trying to backdate the firing to his meeting with Woodward to prove he wasn’t given a 7 day cure
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