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re: What if we tear it up with E as OC
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:41 am to classy
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:41 am to classy
I’m not reading any further but Remembering CLMs championship and the hatred spewed back then,
there will be some seriously pissed
Idiots on here.
months of idiocy condensed:
“Hell yeah, I’m pissed; now we have to keep him longer!”
there will be some seriously pissed
Idiots on here.
months of idiocy condensed:
“Hell yeah, I’m pissed; now we have to keep him longer!”
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:43 am to la_birdman
Yah I believe lay would have had a championzhip during 2017 season, would have should have if would have hired chip kelly as offense coordinator. He would have taken it, no doubt in my mind. But head coach it's in his interests to be on west coast. Chip Kelly knows how to use the talents of the players. I think E will do well as offense coordinator, but Kendal briles should be on speed dial if he does not
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:45 am to burke985
quote:that's pretty obvious, they always find something to bitch about. additionally, there is a large contingent of haters disguised as LSU fans that come here and post strictly to stir up TD. They take pleasure in baiting the LSU fans trying to create havoc. They do a pretty good job. I wish the Admins upped their game to identify and ban them.
Will people be mad?
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:50 am to burke985
quote:
What if we tear it up with E as OC
Will people be mad?
Nope, LSU fans will be quick to admit "I was wrong"
and jump on the train..
Thus the phrase "winning cures all"
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:53 am to ApexTiger
You weren’t here in O7 huh....
ETA : Sirry , you were.
You don’t remember the reaction of many on here against CLM for winning the NC?
ETA : Sirry , you were.
You don’t remember the reaction of many on here against CLM for winning the NC?
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 7:55 am
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:54 am to TigerNala
But the search! But the search! 
We'll be good. Undefeated? No chance. Be in a position to beat everyone? Probably. I think only one of those games gets away from us next year (where we get utterly dominated). A crying over spilled milk meltdown when we lose our first game? Absofreakinglutely. And I'll be here annoyed cause 20 guys will be talking about how O lied during the search...
We'll be good. Undefeated? No chance. Be in a position to beat everyone? Probably. I think only one of those games gets away from us next year (where we get utterly dominated). A crying over spilled milk meltdown when we lose our first game? Absofreakinglutely. And I'll be here annoyed cause 20 guys will be talking about how O lied during the search...
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:25 am to TigerNala
quote:
I wish the Admins upped their game to identify and ban them.
Aw. Poor baby. I’m sure we can find a safe space for you.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:31 am to classy
quote:
I think that's a given. People don't like when they're wrong.
Not this time. I'd love to be wrong about this.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:33 am to burke985
Wouldn't worry about that unless we beat Miami by 14 
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:42 am to memphis tiger
quote:
That said, as an LSU fan nothing would be better than for them to succeed and win SEC and National Championships.
this is just flat out bull shite and you know it. Rantards are going to be one miserable group if they are proven wrong and LSU has a good season and the offense looks good under SE.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:44 am to burke985
Yeah there are maybe like 2-3 or a handful of people that would be "mad" because they were wrong. The VAST majority of the people taking issue with the hire, like me, just want what is best for LSU and don't believe Ensminger, despite his love for LSU, is the right guy for the job. I know I would be overjoyed to be wrong.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:46 am to lsu2006
quote:
Yeah there are maybe like 2-3 or a handful of people that would be "mad" because they were wrong. The VAST majority of the people taking issue with the hire, like me, just want what is best for LSU and don't believe Ensminger, despite his love for LSU, is the right guy for the job. I know I would be overjoyed to be wrong.
Well said, lsu2006.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:05 am to classy
quote:
I think that's a given. People don't like when they're wrong.
BS, I am against the hire. But LSU with Ensminger can do well. Coach O and Alleva will always be remembered as big arse liars when it comes to hiring the best coaches after not interviewing anyone else.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:09 am to boxcar willie
I would be thrilled if E surprises us, steps up his game and becomes a truly elite OC. I think it is unlikely though.
What I have argued is there is at least a partial leadership vacuum at LSU that prevents them from obtaining and maintaining a championship-caliber program. LSU might have enough talent and leadership to achieve about 80% of the goal of winning championships. In working towards most difficult goals, it becomes increasingly difficult to see progress as one gets to 100%. Elite coaches will put in that extra, extremely difficult work in the face of diminishing returns and will be relentless, honest and intelligent in their pursuit. I call this "striving for excellence."
Average coaches get comfortable with 75 or 80% success, e.g. 8 win seasons and minor bowl appearances. When faced with adversity, they will get frustrated, tending to react emotionally and point fingers. Others may need to step in to mediate problems that they themselves are responsible for and paid to manage.
I don't think we can reasonably expect O and E to take the steps necessary to attain excellence because that's what their past records suggest.
Let me use a simple analogy. Suppose LSU decided to save money and simply rely totally on the talents of their offensive players. They ask themselves, "why hire an OC at all? Why should we pay someone $1M/yr when we might be able to win just as many games with no one in the position?"
In that scenario, wouldn't it be reasonable for people to voice their concern? Wouldn't those same people be happy if by some unlikely circumstances, LSU went undefeated the next year and averaged 35 ppg, but still rightly understand that such a strategy could not possibly be maintained indefinitely?
Is it really "whining" and people being "miserable" when those concerned about the direction of LSU's program patiently point this out?
What I have argued is there is at least a partial leadership vacuum at LSU that prevents them from obtaining and maintaining a championship-caliber program. LSU might have enough talent and leadership to achieve about 80% of the goal of winning championships. In working towards most difficult goals, it becomes increasingly difficult to see progress as one gets to 100%. Elite coaches will put in that extra, extremely difficult work in the face of diminishing returns and will be relentless, honest and intelligent in their pursuit. I call this "striving for excellence."
Average coaches get comfortable with 75 or 80% success, e.g. 8 win seasons and minor bowl appearances. When faced with adversity, they will get frustrated, tending to react emotionally and point fingers. Others may need to step in to mediate problems that they themselves are responsible for and paid to manage.
I don't think we can reasonably expect O and E to take the steps necessary to attain excellence because that's what their past records suggest.
Let me use a simple analogy. Suppose LSU decided to save money and simply rely totally on the talents of their offensive players. They ask themselves, "why hire an OC at all? Why should we pay someone $1M/yr when we might be able to win just as many games with no one in the position?"
In that scenario, wouldn't it be reasonable for people to voice their concern? Wouldn't those same people be happy if by some unlikely circumstances, LSU went undefeated the next year and averaged 35 ppg, but still rightly understand that such a strategy could not possibly be maintained indefinitely?
Is it really "whining" and people being "miserable" when those concerned about the direction of LSU's program patiently point this out?
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 9:21 am
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:10 am to burke985
We're reduced to "what ifs" as a fanbase now.
That means that we know that the most likely outcome isn't something to look forward to. Sad.
Clemson fans aren't sitting around asking each other "what if we get to the playoffs next year." They expect it. We're nothing but a "what if" program now.
That means that we know that the most likely outcome isn't something to look forward to. Sad.
Clemson fans aren't sitting around asking each other "what if we get to the playoffs next year." They expect it. We're nothing but a "what if" program now.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 9:12 am
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:11 am to burke985
I hope the Tigers do just that.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:13 am to la_birdman
quote:
It's on O. If he had had an actual search like he claimed he would have when he took the job, this thread doesn't exist.
Well.... O did conduct an actual search.... It’s called RE - search
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:14 am to jayboy504
quote:
Well.... O did conduct an actual search.... It’s called RE - search
bullshite.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:21 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:
Bull shite.
Dang dude don’t get your panties in a wad...
It’s called S-A-R-C-A-S-M
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:27 am to TigerFanFromBama
quote:don’t be a dick . He was open the whole fricking year in the seam but All Etling saw was a fade route and a check down.
2017 stats: 24 rec, 278 yards, 3 TDs... beast numbers right there!
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