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What happened on our last possession yesterday?
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:56 am
I haven't seen anyone make mention of it and it looked a little questionable. I was very invested in O's decision to punt rather than attempt a field goal, since the point spread in my confidence pool was 8.5. Did O forget he was out of time out's and was forced to take the delay penalty or was the plan all along to punt it instead of trying a field goal that would've iced it?
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:58 am to lsuexpert57
quote:Yes, but unsure of what he was planning after the "time out".
Did O forget he was out of time out's and was forced to take the delay penalty or was the plan all along to punt it instead of trying a field goal that would've iced it?
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:58 am to lsuexpert57
You don't try the fg from right there up 1 possession. You absolutely kick and pin them deep. Should have lined up and tried to atleast draw them off. I'd even go for it before you try a fg.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:00 am to lsuexpert57
He was running the clock and giving his punter some room to make it easier on him to get it between the end zone and the 10 yard line. It was smart because if we miss the field goal we give them better field position.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:01 am to bayoubengal225
I think its a close call either way when you have a kicker that has been as consistent as Tracy. Sure you bring the block into play but IMHO not a bad trade off to put the game out of reach with an 11 point lead.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:02 am to lsuexpert57
Coach wanted JB to try to draw them offsides, rather than the nonchalant approach that was executed. Worked a few times during the year. Intended to punt the entire time. Loved seing O ‘coaching em up’ with such passion and ferocity that late in the game.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:02 am to lsuexpert57
More than that when on during that 4th and 1 but it's been whacked whenever a thread starts so you'll have to find out somewhere else I think
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:04 am to bayoubengal225
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You don't try the fg from right there up 1 possession.
What?
O clearly was content in going for the FG before he VERY obviously forgot he was out of timeouts and subsequently freaked out.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:07 am to MAEFIELD
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Coach wanted JB to try to draw them offsides, rather than the nonchalant approach that was executed.
Nah, someone told him that in his headset late in the play clock. He didn’t even start yelling at Burrow to do it until ~10 seconds left. Punting was the right move.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:08 am to lsuexpert57
In short, it was go for a long field goal or punt and trust Aranda. I belive that statistically a long field goal has a higher chance of being blocked than a punt. Additionally, a missed field goal gives them better field position excluding a really bad shank job from punting. I trust Aranda and obviously so does O. The reality is, you could argue that either decision could be a good one. The percentages seem to support the decision by O imho.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:11 am to Bigbody1603
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He was running the clock and giving his punter some room to make it easier on him to get it between the end zone and the 10 yard line. It was smart because if we miss the field goal we give them better field position.
No LSU wanted to go for it but Orgeron forgot we didn't have any timeouts left.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:11 am to KennesawTiger
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O clearly was content in going for the FG before he VERY obviously forgot he was out of timeouts and subsequently freaked out.
That's not what happened or you would have seen O trying to take a timeout.
Probably wanted to line up and try to draw them offsides.
It still falls on O because he didn't have his offense ready.
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 11:12 am
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:14 am to jimmy the leg
I agree that it was a close call either way. FG being the aggressive choice and punting the conservative one. It just seemed to me that our recent history of freak last drives from TAMU and Notre Dame, and our defense being so depleted...I would have leaned towards trusting Tracy.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:14 am to MAEFIELD
quote:If by Coaching them up you mean him calling Joe Burrow a "Dumb Motherfricker" the yeah, I guess that counts.
Loved seing O ‘coaching em up’ with such passion and ferocity that late in the game.
Eta: Downvote away, but what coaching up did Coach O do on that fourth down? The camera was on him the whole time. All you saw was O talking to the ref, then he starts freaking out, and then calls someone on the field a "Dumb Motherfricker". Everyone on the scoreboard yesterday agreed he was yelling at Burrow.
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 11:34 am
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:16 am to jimmy the leg
Looked to me they were taking the penalty and punting from start but O wanted Joe to try and draw them offsides and that didn’t happen.
Don’t go by the line espn puts on the field as to whether a coach is going to kick a field goal or not. First the coaches don’t see that line and probably going into the drive he had a yardage in mind that he was going to kick a field goal. Anything beyond that he was punting. Second that line is based off of the field goal kickers longest made field goal. Tracey has been 50/50 on anything longer than 50 yards. The smart play was to take the penalty and kick and force them to go the entire field in 40 seconds.
Don’t go by the line espn puts on the field as to whether a coach is going to kick a field goal or not. First the coaches don’t see that line and probably going into the drive he had a yardage in mind that he was going to kick a field goal. Anything beyond that he was punting. Second that line is based off of the field goal kickers longest made field goal. Tracey has been 50/50 on anything longer than 50 yards. The smart play was to take the penalty and kick and force them to go the entire field in 40 seconds.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:18 am to lsuexpert57
I don't know exactly what happened but if you read O's lips he called somebody a dumb mother fricker. I think Burrow.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:20 am to The Boat
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No LSU wanted to go for it
If they were never actually going to go for it, the the lineman wouldn't have jumped. The lineman jumping tells me they had an actual play called and weren't just trying to draw them off sides.
I think O wanted to try to get them to jump offsides, call a timeout if that doesn't work and then run a play. But he didn't know he was out of timeouts.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:21 am to lsuexpert57
You guys are saying that punting was "the right decision " bc it didn't backfire. I think the right move would have been to go for it. They already couldn't stop us in obvious running situations. No way we don't get a yard there and if somehow you get stopped you still have more than half the field to defend. You ABSOLUTELY don't leave that up to a severely depleted defense against an uptempo ucf. We won. I'm happy. But that was 150% piss poor coaching there.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:22 am to bwallcubfan
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That's not what happened or you would have seen O trying to take a timeout.
He 100% was unaware we had no TOs.
The camera happened to be in a close up directly on his face when he very visibly went from relaxed to yelling “We don’t have any timeouts guys” with about 10 seconds left on the clock after someone told him in his head set.
Great camera work by ESPN
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 11:28 am
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:23 am to lsuexpert57
This is my assumption.
He was always going to punt. Delay of game was meaningless
With about 15 seconds remaining on the clock he realized it would be good to try and draw them offsides. But it was too late to even attempt.
Orgeron was a littl clumsy in that exchange but it wasn’t anything to get worked up about.
If you want to criticize a crucial decision, it was the series before where we ran the ball on 3rd and goal from the 6. That was a very bad decision that basically guaranteed our opponent would be within 2 scores. Worse, the conservative call did very little for us. Our “gain” was not risking throwing an interception.
He absolutely should be taken to task for that decision.
He was always going to punt. Delay of game was meaningless
With about 15 seconds remaining on the clock he realized it would be good to try and draw them offsides. But it was too late to even attempt.
Orgeron was a littl clumsy in that exchange but it wasn’t anything to get worked up about.
If you want to criticize a crucial decision, it was the series before where we ran the ball on 3rd and goal from the 6. That was a very bad decision that basically guaranteed our opponent would be within 2 scores. Worse, the conservative call did very little for us. Our “gain” was not risking throwing an interception.
He absolutely should be taken to task for that decision.
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