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re: What does LSU have to do differently on the offense to beat Bama next year?

Posted on 1/6/17 at 6:31 am to
Posted by tigerrandy
scott ,louisiana
Member since Jul 2009
120 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 6:31 am to
quote:
What does LSU have to do differently on the offense to beat Bama next year?

execute the plays called ( O-Line) score points!!
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 6:33 am to
Actually scoring would be the best start...
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7624 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 6:38 am to
Run plays they haven't run al season. Bama studies film of previous games more than anybody... the extra staff members job.
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
Member since Dec 2005
4310 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 7:07 am to
"It was clear that Bama was not going to let LF7 run the ball, yet we kept trying to force it".

Clearly, O should have just told LF7 not to bother to dress out, as it would have been foolish to try to force Bama to account for him. We'll let Elling win the game and we'll not use our most potent weapon at all. Bama won't know how to deal with that at all...
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 7:11 am
Posted by engl6914
Natchez, Miss.
Member since Aug 2008
388 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 7:16 am to
LSU mis-used its offensive personnel against Alabama. Western Kentucky scored 10 points against Alabama; that would have sent us into overtime against them. LSU has all the talent it needs to beat Alabama. Ordinarily when the defense holds Alabama to 10 points and forces two turnovers in Bama territory, that's a recipe for victory. In the end I don't think LSU had gotten far enough away from the Miles offensive concept at the time of the Bama game. They have now, as we saw against Louisville. It is too much to expect to move entirely away from Miles in a few weeks in the middle of a season of play. But now the team is playing at the caliber of a playoff team--better, really--I don't have a problem seeing LSU beat Washington and Ohio State. Alabama and Clemson would be pickits.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18662 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 7:16 am to
Block
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 7:58 am to
I don't remember what defensive player it was at Alabama but during the 15 season he was quoted saying how they love to play LSU. He gave credit saying LSU was a talented and tough team but there wasn't a lot of creativity. They knew exactly what they were gonna do it and it was just line up and see who was better.

Alabamas players are too talented to do that with. You have to create mistakes on their side.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22277 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:02 am to
Stop the pass rush.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8620 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:21 am to
Bama's down linemen do a good job of holding without the refs seeing. they hook arms and stuff to give the LBs a clear shot at the RB.

And before i get downvoted for conspiracy.. I watched it happen on replays this year.
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
4987 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:23 am to
quote:

I don't remember what defensive player it was at Alabama but during the 15 season he was quoted saying how they love to play LSU. He gave credit saying LSU was a talented and tough team but there wasn't a lot of creativity. They knew exactly what they were gonna do it and it was just line up and see who was better.

Alabamas players are too talented to do that with. You have to create mistakes on their side.


I like this explanation, the talent level is pretty even (with a slight edge to Bama on the lines), yet their coaching staff actually prepares for the game by watching film and finding weaknesses.

With most of the last 6 games being so close, it all came down to game-day coaching and that exposed Miles' weaknesses to the point of him being canned.

It will be refreshing to see Canada and Aranda actually attack teams rather than try and bludgeon them.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26631 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:24 am to
1. spread offense
2. athletic QB

We need a lot of pre snap motion, we need to spread that defense out, we need a dual threat so Bama can't just dominate the OL and get to the slow pocket passer who can't improvise on the run. We need to run read option and utilize RPOs.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:31 am to
quote:

In the end I don't think LSU had gotten far enough away from the Miles offensive concept at the time of the Bama game. They have now, as we saw against Louisville


I think it was more of the fact that Louisville defense isn't the same as Bamas defense in any kind of way. Plays that worked vs Louisville would get blown up against Bama. The difference between LSU and Bama has had more to do with talent than any thing else.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24774 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:44 am to
Quote:

What does LSU have to do

String together some consecutive first downs and score more points than Bama.

Posted by LuckyTiger57
Member since Dec 2015
1241 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:50 am to
We have to recruit bigger and better OL and DL players and then beat them physically up front to win the game against Alabama or any other team. Take care of that and the best of the best will come running to play for LSU instead of crossing the border to Alabama.
Posted by Maniac979
The Great State of Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1904 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:52 am to
score more points
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:57 am to
quote:

We have to recruit bigger and better OL and DL players and then beat them physically up front to win the game against Alabama or any other team


either that or get a great dual threat QB who can make up for their advantage in the trenches (the Clemson plan)
Posted by gettin there
La.
Member since Sep 2016
355 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:13 am to
"We are going to see what Clemson does when they beat the crap out of Bama!"....EXACTLY MT ....

Whatever Clemson does---DITTO it....--------- ..IF possible....
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4424 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:22 am to
It's been the same formula for years and years. We've seen Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Ohio State, and Clemson use it time and again. A) spread set with 3 or 4 receivers. B) utilize hot routes in middle of the field in the seams. This requires a QB who can read defense, though, and pick up pre-snap blitz signals, so he'll know where his hots are. C) when lbs back off to close seams, hit TE's and RB's underneath coverage. D). When get a good clean pocket, hit receivers over the top, don't just drop off to a TE or RB safety valve.

Easy peazy.... just gotta execute and have a QB who don't have to look over at the sidelines before snap and can read defenses on the fly, know where they're coming from, call out blitzes for everyone, and deliver an accurate ball through the seams.

Edit:. I'll also add that you need a good center who can help QB call out lb blitzes, too. But in order to get to the point where those lbs are even blitzing, you have to be successful keeping a 3-man rush out of the QBs face. A QB who can and knows when to run will help discourage 3-man rushes. Against a 3-4, if you can't do anything on the ground, you WANT 1 or 2 of those lbs to come. That helps open up the middle even more.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 9:33 am
Posted by MaGoo
Ethel, LA
Member since Jun 2004
628 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:30 am to
Seems to be the same question LSU's offense has been asking itself since Jan 2012.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15590 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:55 am to
1. Block.


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