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re: What do you guys give O credit for?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:02 am to therick711
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:02 am to therick711
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Ok, well he fricked up the clock and our timeout situations against Alabama. So in the one game where the chess match part of being an executive came in, he failed.
This is true. He also didn't make the call to switch to a Plan B on offense when the game was still in the balance. I was down on O for these misses. However, he won some points back for succeeding where Miles failed against Arkansas. His philosophies of motivation and handling practices really proved themselves in this game.
I don't think the latter automatically qualifies O to win the job. I don't think the former is an automatic disqualifier (even though I said the opposite last week). O hasn't made the same game management mistakes previously this season, and that isn't something that can't be learned from and overcome. And as for the offense, we will need a real OC to be able to compete with Bama, and Ensminger just isn't that. He's done a solid job given the circumstances, but he was completely out of his depth vs Saban, and nothing O could have done would have overcome that.
The stretch run is going to decide this situation, and your constant protests will do nothing to change that.
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:04 am to therick711
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I wish LSU would have made BDP the coach so we wouldn't by seriously considering hiring Cajun Bill Stewart.
Now you've jumped the shark. Damn. Get your head out of your arse.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:06 am to tigergurl67
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I'm not against him getting the job. I'm just not completely sold yet. Except for the Arkansas game, we have no quality wins with him as head coach. I give him credit for holding the team together, keeping morale up and keeping the team motivated. The most impressive thing about the team this season has undoubtedly been the defense and I give Aranda the credit for that.
That's a pretty fair assessment, and I understand completely.
With respect to Aranda, he's awesome, no doubt about it.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:07 am to misey94
BDP has a better record as a full time head coach than O does.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 10:09 am
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:28 am to therick711
Link??????
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:37 am to dukke v
Look it up, Peej. O has a win percentage of about 28%. BDP's is about 32%.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:53 am to therick711
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So he took a team that should have contended for the playoffs and beat the following: Missouri 3-7 (1-5) Southern Miss 5-5 (3-3) Ole Miss 5-5 (2-4) Arkansas 6-4 (2-4) That's his big accomplishment so far
You were down voted because you failed to see that it is the fashion in which they were beaten, not the fact that they were beaten Under the previous regime those wins would have been close and we would have been underachieving. Under CEO and a tight ends coach, there were very few delays in getting the plays in, there were many more 3rd down conversions, big plays and points than the previous national champion coach could produce.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:57 am to therick711
So.... you think he is more qualified than coach O.... if do you really need to get off of Miles sack.... like I said... you can't stand how great this team is playing since your boyfriend got canned....
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:04 am to therick711
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Look it up, Peej. O has a win percentage of about 28%. BDP's is about 32%.
On Aranda handling DC duties and HC duties, which is what we are basically asking him to do if we promote him over CEO, BDP is a great example as to why you don't give someone too many responsibilities. He doesn't look like a special teams tragedy now that his linebacker duties and recruiting responsibilities were removed by his head coach. Yet another good move of many made by CEO this season.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:17 am to therick711
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I wish LSU would have made BDP the coach so we wouldn't by seriously considering hiring Cajun Bill Stewart.
I knew you hated Coach O, before this, and think you're fairly unreasonable in your points. Now? No credibility at all. Are you even an LSU fan?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:25 am to LSUTIGER64
One team one heartbeat geaux tigers
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:32 am to LSUTIGER64
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You say something good about the offense and you say well O does not know anything about offense. You say something good about the defense thats not O thats Aranda.
O gets credit for firing Cam and promoting Ensminger. I think it's arguable that with Les and Cam, we'd be in the same position wins and losses wise. BUT we would have won ugly. At least I've enjoyed 4 and 3/4 of the games we've played since they left.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:34 am to DamnStrong1860
So O is blameless for the loss to Alabama? I'm good with that.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:34 am to loweralabamatrojan
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Damn, that's harsh. The only game Coach O's Tigers didn't win is against the one team no one is beating this season. Not his fault, IMHO.
But Peveto as an alternative? Dude
Take everything going on right at this very moment with this LSU Football team, insert BDP instead of Orgeron. Would everyone be knighting for BDP to get the full time HC job? If not, why?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:41 am to SabiDojo
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So O is blameless for the loss to Alabama?
Who said that?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:43 am to DamnStrong1860
I'm just trying to understand where the line is drawn in regards to what O gets credit and blame for. It seems to me on this board that it gets rather inconsistent.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:54 am to LSUTIGER64
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What do you guys give O credit for?
Hope
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:41 pm to West Central Tiger
I hope he has more tricks and motivation stuff in his bag than just "one team one heartbeat" and "tell the truth mondays", competition tuesdays, etc. Seems already sort of stale and played out after 5 games this year.
Will he pull out the tug of war rope in the offseason too? "Now everybody get on one side of the rope and pull...see....one team one heartbeat....."
Seems like it blows Oregron's mind but for those of us who already heard it at the Arkansas QB club speech and heard about how he used it at USC, it isn't that mind blowing.
Will he pull out the tug of war rope in the offseason too? "Now everybody get on one side of the rope and pull...see....one team one heartbeat....."
Seems like it blows Oregron's mind but for those of us who already heard it at the Arkansas QB club speech and heard about how he used it at USC, it isn't that mind blowing.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:43 pm to LSUTIGER64
He is only an expert with Dline which is one of the easiest positions to coach. He doesn't do shite on the field
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:50 pm to 7nette
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How am I changing the criteria?
You start with the premise that LSU was a top five team when coached by O and it beat other lesser teams. Then when called out-- you change to LSU has top 5 talent based on pre-season polls.
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