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re: What are the chances McMahon is fired this year?

Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:46 am to
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:46 am to
Who would at the time?
Posted by TheJuicey
Arkansas
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:48 am to
Let me correct you, MBB SHOULD turn a profit. I would be shocked to learn if we actually do turn a profit based off how empty the PMAC is every game which will only get worse.

I wouldn’t be shocked to learn that the % loss is actually better on WBB currently than MBB, which tells you all you need to know about McLoser’s future.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:50 am to
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Who would at the time?
You mean take the LSU MBB head coaching job?

CoachMc went from making $500k/yr at Murray to $2.7m/yr at LSU.

I think that’s enough incentive for a lot of coaches, no begging involved.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:52 am to
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Let me correct you, MBB SHOULD turn a profit. I would be shocked to learn if we actually do turn a profit based off how empty the PMAC is every game which will only get worse.
MBB absolutely makes a profit due to TV contract and SEC revenue sharing.

For most schools it is the most profitable sport. For most larger schools like LSU it’s #2 behind football for revenue and profit.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:52 am to
Who interviewed? He showed real interest? I can’t remember.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:59 am to
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Who interviewed? He showed real interest? I can’t remember.
You’d have to ask one of Woody’s shills on here.
Posted by lsudave1
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:10 am to
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Under Mcmahon we are 11-27 in the SEC (the worst in the conference since he started), 3-17 on the road in the SEC (worst in the conference since he started), and 8-35 as underdogs (the second worst record as an underdog in the conference since he has taken over)


Holy shite. I would argue that things are actually worse than they seem because I didn’t realize that we were even that bad. Missouri went an entire season winless in the conference and we still have a worse record than them.
Posted by Aforem7
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:24 am to
I knew the SEC record was bad but the other two records were really what shocked me. But in all reality it probably shouldn't. Anytime we have played a team that we aren't favored against, I genuinely expect that we wouldn't have much of a chance (even though I held out hope that there was a chance I was wrong). The stats prove that that wasn't just a gut feeling but was the reality of the situation
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 11:25 am
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:54 am to
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I knew the SEC record was bad but the other two records were really what shocked me. But in all reality it probably shouldn't. Anytime we have played a team that we aren't favored against, I genuinely expect that we wouldn't have much of a chance (even though I held out hope that there was a chance I was wrong). The stats prove that that wasn't just a gut feeling but was the reality of the situation


Add to those stats the fact he's 17-35 (.326) vs. major conference opponents. That includes this year to date.

Unless things change quickly that number in the loss is likely to balloon to the point where you could be looking at a 3 year winning % vs such teams that is below .300.
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:08 pm to
How about 0 wins?

Looking at the schedule it appears the only two games remaining on the schedule that look winnable are vs a struggling Arky in the PMAC Tuesday night and vs S. Carolina in February at home.

If we lose that Arkansas game next week it's game over. 0 wins and 0 chance McMahon returns.
Posted by Aforem7
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:25 pm to
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Add to those stats the fact he's 17-35 (.326) vs. major conference opponents. That includes this year to date.

Unless things change quickly that number in the loss is likely to balloon to the point where you could be looking at a 3 year winning % vs such teams that is below .300.


I did some quick math and in the 39 losses that we have had under Mcmahon, we lost by an average of roughly 12 points with 7 of the losses being 20 points or more. So its not just that we are losing, we are getting the shite beat out of us on a fairly consistent basis
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:41 pm to
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I did some quick math and in the 39 losses that we have had under Mcmahon, we lost by an average of roughly 12 points with 7 of the losses being 20 points or more. So its not just that we are losing, we are getting the shite beat out of us on a fairly consistent basis


Yep. In far too many games LSU hasn't not only lost, they haven't been competitive.

Obviously it is still very early in SEC play, but in 2 games (combined 80 minutes) LSU has led for a total of 3:15 seconds. (2:50 vs. Vandy; 0.25 vs. Mizzou). And those leads have been within first 4 minutes of the games. That means at no point beyond the 16 minute mark of the first half has LSU had a lead in the first two SEC games. To put that into context the only team who has been equally as bad is South Carolina. However, USC's first two games were @ (17) Mississippi St and Alabama. South Carolina at least has the excuse of playing two of the better teams in a loaded league. LSU has struggled against the bottom of the league
Posted by Texastiger43
Houston
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:11 pm to
I think I remember it being said that his first year was considered year zero so they don't even count what he did. If that is the case then this will only be his "second year" so I really don't see him being let go unfortunately.
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:13 pm to
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lsutiger2


Ill have what this guy is smoking?

Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:07 am to
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Let me correct you, MBB SHOULD turn a profit. I would be shocked to learn if we actually do turn a profit based off how empty the PMAC is every game which will only get worse.
think they made around 2MM last year.
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:17 am to
When and if the Tigers go 0-18 in SEC play, what might be the verdict?
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:30 am to
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I think I remember it being said that his first year was considered year zero


Yes, there are a great many folks - in the media and otherwise who have said this repeatedly. I've always contended that even if one gives this caveat, performance can still be judged within that context.

How did we perform even given the tough circumstances inherited/ Did we show improvement, was there in season development? Did we get better individually and collectively relative to those circumstances? Whether you call it year one or year zero what is the answer to those questions?

Year two the OOC play was very disappointing, it virtually sabotaged any hopes of an NCAA bid even with some improved play and seeming positive development in SEC play that year, then we finished poorly with disappointing losses in the SEC tourney and the NIT.

This year, I'd love to have Reed, but we can still make reasonable judgements based on similar criteria and ask similar questions as we did above re: year zero/one. Let's see how those questions are answered at years end and go from there.



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