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re: Was McMahon hired because he was the only option?
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:44 pm to tigersbb
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:44 pm to tigersbb
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Understood but none of thos were recruiting violations on behalf of LSU. One was related to his prior school and the other two were process violations , not recruiting violations.
here was your post
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And to this day the NCAA has not proven he commited a SINGLE violation.
you changed that to recruiting violation once the violations were posted
However, he was found to have committed recruiting violations. They just weren't Level I violations. He was found to have committed one Level II and two Level III recruiting violations.
The Feds told the NCAA to frick off when the NCAA tried to get evidence from them. Wade also refused to turn over his bank records, which made it impossible for the NCAA to prove the payments to people, and he never provided all of his cellphone records. Those things and the NCAA having no subpoena power very likely saved he and LSU both from very likely a lot worse than it ended up being. Bit it did end up in a Level I violation for Wade for not cooperating with the investigation.
Regardless, it' silly to keep your head buried in the sand when Wade himself admits he screwed up and broke the rules when specifically asked about if he feels wronged with the fact that paying players is ok now. use some context clues. It's over now. There's no need to defend him. The NCAA can't go back now and punish him again, but I think we can all call a spade a spade.
But to answer your dumb question before, yes you can cheat and still be a good coach because I don't think he had a competitive advantage. Everyone cheated. Wade just got caught and us punished while others didn't get caught and/or didn't get punished. it is what it is. College basketball is/was dirty, always has been.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 11:45 pm
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Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:57 pm to drizztiger
I just don’t know why they do this.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 1:10 am to lsufball19
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you changed that to recruiting violation once the violations were posted
Here is the first post on the subject: Please tell us what NCAA violation Wade admitted to while recruiting for LSU and what violations the NCAA PROVED?
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However, he was found to have committed recruiting violations. They just weren't Level I violations. He was found to have committed one Level II and two Level III recruiting violations.
What were the recruiting violations that were proven, not the process issues dealing with the NCAA.? No recruiting violations involving players were ever proven. I am not concerned with what he said. to some reporter. he either had an illegal competitive advantage or he didn't.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:19 am to lsufball19
Of course he didn't have a competitive advantage.
EVERY SINGLE top player (with the rarest of exceptions), has been getting illegal benefits for decades in football and men's basketball.
People that refuse to acknowledge this aren't dealing with reality.
The NCAA just chooses who they discipline, for whatever reasons they have. Most likely by protecting their cash cows, and swatting down anybody threatening to take the top players from those cash cows.
It's really not that hard to understand.
EVERY SINGLE top player (with the rarest of exceptions), has been getting illegal benefits for decades in football and men's basketball.
People that refuse to acknowledge this aren't dealing with reality.
The NCAA just chooses who they discipline, for whatever reasons they have. Most likely by protecting their cash cows, and swatting down anybody threatening to take the top players from those cash cows.
It's really not that hard to understand.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:42 am to tigahlovah
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The NCAA just chooses who they discipline, for whatever reasons they have. Most likely by protecting their cash cows, and swatting down anybody threatening to take the top players from those cash cows.
This ^^^
Duke bought Zion's Mom a $900K home in Durham and everyone knows it and pretends it didn't happen. Self had damning text messages talking about paying a player $100K and as many Level 1 allegations as LSU did. Two Face Roy and North Carolina participated in a years long academic cheating scandal that was proven to have happened right around the year they won a national title.
I'd add the Florida coach who just won a national title was stalking co-eds and sending dick pics and other things before he even won a title, that were IMHO much more egregious than offering money to players and he's still working.
I could literally go on and on about the double standard and the protecting of the cash cows you allude to.
This post was edited on 2/24/26 at 7:04 am
Posted on 2/24/26 at 7:15 am to tigersbb
quote:no. That wasn’t the first post on the subject but I’m done beating this dead horse
Please tell us what NCAA violation Wade admitted to while recruiting for LSU and what violations the NCAA PROVED?
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No recruiting violations involving players were ever proven.
Yes. There were. He had multiple counts of impermissible contact with a recruit proven. That’s a recruiting violation. But again, I’m not bearing this dead horse anymore. You’re clearly too emotional about the topic to have a reasonable discussion about it
This post was edited on 2/24/26 at 7:16 am
Posted on 2/24/26 at 7:42 am to Alt26
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McMahon was hired within days of Todd Golden, who was hire by Florida. McMahon had the better season than Golden and actually beat Golden in the NCAA Tournament.
To add to this, Florida was very interested in McMahon then pushed hard to close a deal for Golden when it appeared McMahon was waiting to hear what other offers were out there.
Just a great hire by UF because Golden's resume wasn't anything that would knock you over. LSU chose wrong. It happens more often than not with these mid-major guys.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 7:45 am to mmcgrath
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Year 1 was valid excuses in that he couldn't get transfers due to the Letter.
Yet had the 11th ranked transfer class in the country
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Year 2 was a decent recovery, despite Cook.
The Sharon Weston-Broome model for "success". Set expectations so low that anything above completely awful seems like "success". That team could not beat anyone in non-conf. play. Including Nicholls St. But for a fluke week in February with two 1 point wins vs. South Carolina and Kentucky LSU would have had a losing record. Even with the "success" LSU wasn't even in consideration for the NCAA Tournament. They received a participation trophy NIT bid because Ole Miss turned that waste of time down.
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Year 3 the lack of NIL support really failed the team.
Again, NO ONE mentioned a lack of NIL (which would have been paid BEFORE the season started) until LSU tanked, again, and there was a push to get rid of Wade by the now chairman of the LSU BOS. But hey, if you are looking under every rock to explain the consistently bad results besides the obvious reason why, then this was a great one because it's unprovable.
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Year 4 the injury to DTJ exposed the pg depth.
LSU got blasted by Texas Tech and was 0-3 in SEC play with him in the line up. No one denies LSU was a better team with him in the line up. But it wouldn't have been significantly better...because the PROBLEM with the program is still present, McMahon.
Johnny Jones had one McMahon level bad season. ONE! He was run out of town. Brian Kelly actually won games. Didn't matter. Paul Manieri had a NC on his resume and went to a super regional in his final season. Who cares? Move on. Yet, somehow, McMahon has found a way to be the only coach in LSU history to be treated like a dad coaching 2nd grade girls. "It's really not his fault the team has been awful for four years. He's a nice guy. And at least his teams don't quit."
Posted on 2/24/26 at 9:54 am to EastWestConnection
"I think he was hired because Scott didnt give a shite about basketball and knew that most of the fans didnt really care either. Baseball and Football hires are way more important at LSU."
Woodward's football hire was a disaster involving a name rather than football experience. His baseball hire was actually done through the work and assurances by Skip Bertman.
Woodward's tenure at LSU was a carbon copy of his days at Texas A&M.
Woodward's football hire was a disaster involving a name rather than football experience. His baseball hire was actually done through the work and assurances by Skip Bertman.
Woodward's tenure at LSU was a carbon copy of his days at Texas A&M.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 11:37 am to boscoroni
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Woodward's football hire was a disaster involving a name rather than football experience
wait, are you saying that Kelly lacked the requisite football experience? Why that hire was a disaster ended up being Kelly checking out once he got paid and not being a great fit for the grind of the SEC. He actually based the hire on his football experience, of which Kelly had a ton and a ton at a major program
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His baseball hire was actually done through the work and assurances by Skip Bertman.
Bertman had little to nothing to do with the baseball hire. Bianco likely would have been the hire if Skip had anything to do with it
Posted on 2/24/26 at 4:36 pm to lsufball19
PEAR COME HOME
Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:01 pm to Big4SALTbro
quote:. Another dead horse that has been beaten. A skeleton by now
Fat Scott was lazy
Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:30 pm to Alt26
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They received a participation trophy NIT bid because Ole Miss turned that waste of time down.
They would not have been an at large team in the NIT if teams hadn’t turned it down. But they also don’t receive an auto bid because ole Miss backed out. Georgia got that bid. Don’t think that changes your point any I suppose.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 4:29 pm to tigersbb
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But he refused to meet with his boss.
As a boss, that would be enough for me.
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