re: WAFB: JT Lindsey turns himself in on accessory charge

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Dudes okay with LSU’s season tanking just so he can prove a point on Tigerdroppings fricking crazy world we live in these days

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semjase is the most cringe and miserable person in the history of the fan base…. So it tracks

To be fair, unless they have text message evidence showing that Lindsey was made aware of their situation, he'll walk from this pretty easily. Just so fricking dumb regardless.

Having tried a dozen or more homicide cases, this case sounds a lot more potentially worrisome to me. If Lindsey was housing murder suspects for any period of time, then proving Lindsey knew they were wanted might not be all that hard to prove. People who do stuff like this are almost always knuckleheads who have thought nothing much through and inevitably leave a trail of incriminating crumbs that even Hansel and Gretel could follow.

That said, an accessory is way different than a principal. Accessory charges can be hard to convict if any jurors see the accessory as more of a loyal guy who will not rat out his pals than as an accomplice to a crime.

But if they can prove Lindsey housed guys he knew were wanted for murder, thats a felony. I dont see Lindsey playing at LSU with a felony conviction.

I am hoping he did not know these guys were wanted and/or that they cannot prove it. You just cannot rule out, with so little information reported, that the prosecution may not already have compelling evidence of an accessory crime.

But anyway, anyone who has not seen the police report, including me, and who thinks Lindsey did something wrong or not, is just guessing at this time. I hope the best for Lindsey and that he was unaware his friends were wanted. If he did not know they were wanted, then there is no crime.

If he did know, however, and was just being a loyal friend, then he may have a steep price to pay. I get being a loyal friend. But that can never outweigh the rights of the victim’s family to have the killer tried, not to mention the fact these guys might kill someone else along the way. Once people cross the kill somebody line, its way, way more easier to kill the next guy.

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Instead of pretending to be an internet lawyer because you binged Law & Order SVU back in the day, just think of it like this:

He supposedly knew that he buddies committed a murder and let them come stay in his dorm room on campus with multiple rifles.

He’s an adult.

That’s a crime.

It’s a felony.

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First of all, I am a defense attorney. If you had a clue what you were talking about, that would have been really obvious from my post, since I discussed a specific legal issue that will likely decide how that charge goes.

Secondly, the charge is accessory after the fact. That’s RS 14:25. I looked up the exact language before posting. As I said before, it reads like a specific intent crime. If there’s some case law I don’t know that interprets it as a general intent crime, then sure, my answer is wrong.

It says: “An accessory after the fact is any person who, after the commission of a felony, shall harbor, conceal, or aid the offender, knowing or having reasonable ground to believe that he has committed the felony, and with the intent that he may avoid or escape from arrest, trial, conviction, or punishment.”

If this doesn’t have some alternative meaning as interpreted in the case law, then you’re completely wrong on this charge. It’s not enough to know they have warrants out. You specifically have to intend that they avoid getting arrested, tried, etc. by staying with you.

I assume he probably committed a different crime pertaining to the firearms—in situations like these, proving constructive possession usually isn’t too difficult—but he wasn’t charged with one yet, per the quote in the OP. All I commented on was the crime actually charged.

Maybe don’t run your mouth next time.

I've never lived a life similar to him, but it has to be almost impossible to leave all that behind. "Cuz if you do see you done fogot where you come from, or worse, you a sellout."

And don't think for a second that a lot of his homies from the hood aren't privately happy he's in this pickle due to their jealousy.

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Hillar attacking the program

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Dumb comment.

Saw and talked to him at the Chuck in Omaha.

He doesn't exist to EFF LSU.

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Inherent in allowing him to stay there, 100 miles away from the crime, while knowing of the charges against him and why they needed a place to hole up.

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Source? Citation? Anything? You started off by insulting me and not even acknowledging the specific intent angle at all, so I’m not inclined to trust you just saying so.

If it were “inherent” in the facts discussed, they wouldn’t even bother having a specific intent element. It would just require showing knowledge that the offender had committed the felony.

I’m aware they can infer specific intent to a degree, but they need more than just what’s been publicly released. And as I acknowledged in my first post, they may have more.

I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue. The only things you’re saying that directly contradict anything I’ve said are just flat out misstatements of the law. And being a condescending dickhead while being wrong, to boot.

Unless those guns were stolen or illegal for him to have. Regardless he had weapons on campus and thats just fricking stupid! Your at a high profile school getting an NIL deal and you go and frick up like this. Kick him to the curb. Its beyond dumb

Does being arrested for accessory after the fact affect his status on the team? Uh yeah I’d say so atleast for the time being until he’s proven guilty or exonerated. You can’t let someone with a serious pending charge around the team.

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but the guns in the room I would assume would get him kicked out of LSU.

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Based on my reading of the arrest warrant, getting expelled from LSU is the LEAST of Lindsey's worries. I just looked up the Louisiana Revised Statute he is accused of. He (currently) has two counts of "Accessory after the fact". Each of those can carry up to 5 years.

So currently, if they maxed him out and ran the sentences consecutive, he's facing a maximum of 10 years. (With the current Good Time Act, he'd have to serve 85%)

As a first offender, he's likely looking at less, and could even wind up with probation with the attorney he has.

That being said, there is still the chance that they could add gun charges for the "Gun free zone" later on.

Hell, they found two AR-15s, a Draco, and a Glock in a college dorm room. If they DON'T add that charge they're doing him a solid.

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specific intent to conceal them from the law.

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In Louisiana, knowing they have the warrants, letting them stay with you, AND not turning them in fulfills the "intent" need. (Not turning them in is what creates the intent)

For the Accessory after the fact statute, in Louisiana, the only defenses he could POSSIBLY have, under the circumstances that we've already heard about in the arrest warrant are:

Duress: If the offenders threatened him or acted violently against him in order to convince him to provide the assistance.

Withdrawal: If he had withdrawn his assistance, by turning them in, at any point before getting caught.

Absent of either of those, he's fricked....