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re: Wade could face federal charges amid probe of LSU basketball
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:59 am to GRTiger
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:59 am to GRTiger
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It is not possible for Wade to be charged for that same scheme because of his position.
Again, I’m not saying he will or won’t be indicted, but Wade’s attorneys (by virtue of gagging him) and the OP’s legal analyst don’t agree that it’s impossible.
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:03 am to GumboPot
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And why Joe Alleva doesn't understand this is mind blowing considering the position he is in and taking the extra step to telegraph guilt like a kid caught with his hands in the cookie jar is further mind blowing.
This rant narrative is completely false. Public servants are suspended with pay all the time during investigations. Every time a police officer discharges their weapon in a remotely controversial scenario, they get suspended or assigned to desk duty. When they are cleared, they’re back on the street. I’m sure I could google and find similar stories where teachers have been suspended and reinstated.
ETA: took all of one Minute to find one.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:05 am
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:04 am to GRTiger
The two LSU players specifically named in the investigation as having received improper cash benefits are Jarell Martin and Tim Quarterman. Neither has a thing to do with Will Wade. LSU was cheating before WW. Johnny Jones is sailing into the sunset, not a word of criticism directed his way.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:10 am to The First Cut
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Wade’s attorneys (by virtue of gagging him)
It's way more likely the DOJ requested that in order to protect their current case.
If the state is arguing bribery, they can't turn around and argue conspiracy on the part of their declared victims. It is completely illogical.
And remember, Smart isn't even involved in Dawkins' schemes. So unless Wade called him back and laid out his plan to defraud Smart, the FBI had no interest in chasing that down as part of the Dawkins investigation.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:11 am to The First Cut
Wade's concern, at least from a criminal prosecution standpoint, is not having committed a crime, but his involvement as a witness going forward. There has been NOTHING produced from the wiretaps that suggest Wade violated any laws. However, as a witness, not only will he will be asked questions that have answers that could cost him his job and trigger an NCAA investigation, failing to respond truthfully could result in criminal prosecution.
We don't know what Wade's "strong arse offer" involved and it is definitely not the same as Dawkins. Surely you can go back and read your SI article. While doing so, go read all of the yahoo articles so you can understand why the Adidas execs and Dawkins were charged.
Finally, wire fraud involves the transmission of funds via wire transfer. Do you know what a wire transfer is? Have you ever sent a wire transfer? You also mentioned "conspiracy to commit wire fraud". Do you understand what that means?
We don't know what Wade's "strong arse offer" involved and it is definitely not the same as Dawkins. Surely you can go back and read your SI article. While doing so, go read all of the yahoo articles so you can understand why the Adidas execs and Dawkins were charged.
Finally, wire fraud involves the transmission of funds via wire transfer. Do you know what a wire transfer is? Have you ever sent a wire transfer? You also mentioned "conspiracy to commit wire fraud". Do you understand what that means?
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:13 am to GRTiger
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It's way more likely the DOJ requested that in order to protect their current case.
Wade, at current, cannot be gagged by DOJ. The justice system can only gag you as part of a court agreement. Wade’s not on trial, he cannot be gagged by the DOJ. We live in America....
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:14 am to maddvector
I “could” face charges as well.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:14 am to The First Cut
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requested
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:15 am to NOLA Tiger
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Do you understand what that means?
Do you?
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Wire fraud is very broadly defined as the use of telephone or electronic communications (involving computers, the Internet, fax machines, television, and the like) in an effort to defraud another individual or entity. More specifically, in 18 U.S. Code 1343, a person that has committed wire fraud is defined as "whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice."
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:17 am to The First Cut
Now, give us the facts that support a possible charge of wire fraud or conspiracy to commit wire fraud by Will Wade.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:19 am to NOLA Tiger
You can keep pretending this hasn’t happened already, it won’t save or convict anyone. Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:26 am to The First Cut
To help you with context and reading comprehension, those charged with wire fraud and/or conspiracy to commit wire fraud were attempting to defraud schools and others and there was proof that money changed hands. Its called evidence. Those charged were the payees. Wade, in your comparison, would be the payor.
Of those schools mentioned in your article, how many had their coaches or other employees were prosecuted? I'll wait for your link.
Of those schools mentioned in your article, how many had their coaches or other employees were prosecuted? I'll wait for your link.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:27 am to The First Cut
The only thing that case did to the schools was prove they were the victims of bad faith negotiations. You keep using it as precedent, but you're ignoring the precedent that was established on the other side.
They wouldn't have a case on Dawkins at all if they proved that the schools were co-conspirators. That would crush their conviction of Dawkins and the Adidas people in appeals court. It's exactly what the state is arguing against.
They wouldn't have a case on Dawkins at all if they proved that the schools were co-conspirators. That would crush their conviction of Dawkins and the Adidas people in appeals court. It's exactly what the state is arguing against.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:33 am to The First Cut
Stop tarding up every thread,especially when you have no idea what you're talking g about jr.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:50 am to TigerBait2008
We live in a social media age driven by clicks and people get excited when they see buzz words like: "wire fraud", "federal investigation", "subpoena", "conspiracy". And when you link highly visible sports figures to the story, you have click bait gold.
The federal government can absolutely destroy someone when they are prosecuting a case and that includes witnesses. Will Wade is in a bad spot here as it relates to his current job and career, but nothing suggests he violated any federal or state laws.
The federal government can absolutely destroy someone when they are prosecuting a case and that includes witnesses. Will Wade is in a bad spot here as it relates to his current job and career, but nothing suggests he violated any federal or state laws.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:51 am
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:54 am to maddvector
What a horrible source. Sounds honest like some open ended what if this type legal mumbojumbo. Nahh i dont buy this story.
The situation has too many dynamics and variables to definativley say anything. Basically everything is speculation because anything can happen at this point. Thats the truth.
I will keep my optimistic stance that somehow he gets out alive. Because in a sense i really see him as a victim more than LSU are you kidding. The pressure to succeed, everyone else is doing this so wtf do i do? He can definatley prove victim status. This should fall on the NCAA as a whole to be completley honest. They let it get to this point
The situation has too many dynamics and variables to definativley say anything. Basically everything is speculation because anything can happen at this point. Thats the truth.
I will keep my optimistic stance that somehow he gets out alive. Because in a sense i really see him as a victim more than LSU are you kidding. The pressure to succeed, everyone else is doing this so wtf do i do? He can definatley prove victim status. This should fall on the NCAA as a whole to be completley honest. They let it get to this point
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 10:04 am
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
My doppelgänger taking a lot of heat these days.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:58 am to NOLA Tiger
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We live in a social media age driven by clicks
This dude just linked this same article in the nola.com comment section on an article about Dick Vitale's comments on Wade. Somebody must be looking for some clicks.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:00 am to maddvector
Not clicking that and giving them views of a crap article
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:23 am to maddvector
They need a new legal analyst if he's THAT unfamiliar with this case that he doesn't understand the the schools including the coaches are viewed as victims here
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