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re: Wade could face federal charges amid probe of LSU basketball
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:36 am to The First Cut
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:36 am to The First Cut
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“The government is going to have to argue somebody is a victim. Is it Mr. Smart? Is it the LSU program? Are they victims or did they benefit from this sort of activity?” said Meche.
There are no victims in this scenario and there is no separating WW from LSU. If a transaction went down all parties benefited just like billions of financial transactions happen everyday.
Slippery slope here from a federal perspective. I don't know why the the feds are going down this path. If they win I fully expect this to get slapped down upon appeal in order to preserve the freedom of exchange in this country.
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:36 am to maddvector
. I think Rick Pitino set the precedent here. If they didn't get him for anything then they won't be placing federal charges on any coach for talking with someone about giving a kid money to play basketball. Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:37 am to The First Cut
If you are using the term "wire fraud" or "conspiracy" when discussing the Wade situation you are an absolute idiot.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:41 am to GumboPot
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WHY THE PROSECUTION WON
Prosecutors from the Southern District of New York convinced jurors that the necessary elements of wire fraud and conspiracy were proven beyond a reasonable doubt. By using the testimony of such cooperating witnesses as former Adidas consultant and AAU coach T.J. Gassnola and Brian Bowen Sr.—the father of former five-star recruit Brian Bowen—prosecutors established that top basketball recruits were paid thousands of dollars in clandestine exchanges. This was not an especially stunning point. For years, if not decades, the idea that basketball recruits were paid money “under the table” to attend certain colleges (in this case, colleges sponsored by Adidas) was well known to many in the basketball and apparel industries.
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The more difficult challenge for prosecutors was to persuade jurors that these payments were not only NCAA rule violations but also, much more importantly, crimes. They did so by depicting the universities that enrolled the paid student-athletes—namely Louisville and Kansas—as victims.
It’s now not unprecedented.
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:41 am to NOLA Tiger
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If you are using the term "wire fraud" or "conspiracy" when discussing the Wade situation you are an absolute idiot.
See SI post, idiot.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:44 am to ellessuuuu
This
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:45 am to maddvector
This is a really terrible article. lol
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:46 am to The First Cut
The wire fraud charge can't happen to Wade. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:46 am to Brobocop
AP aren't the best writers. This one is copy and pasted.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:47 am to maddvector
...and people wonder why Wade’s attorney won’t let him talk.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:48 am to GRTiger
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The wire fraud charge can't happen to Wade. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
IF he made an offer (“I made a strong arse offer”) to a man that’s now convicted for this very same reason, what makes you think he’s outside of the Fed’s arm?
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:49 am to moneyg
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...and people wonder why Wade’s attorney won’t let him talk.
This is exactly what I said Friday. His attorneys had him forsake his LSU career because he was into potentially bigger concerns.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:50 am to The First Cut
Who was he trying to defraud? Dawkins was guilty of defrauding the schools. So Wade would be guilty of defrauding himself here?
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:50 am to maddvector
Or he could not???
Less then 50/50 for WW to not getting indicted.
Bill Self (Kansas)has physical evidence against him and he still is coaching and his university has his back.
Zion's dad is on tape asking for money and a job to send his kid to a school.
Roy Williams UNC is cleared in the fact that his players didn't go to class and still got grades and were eligible to play.
Less then 50/50 for WW to not getting indicted.
Bill Self (Kansas)has physical evidence against him and he still is coaching and his university has his back.
Zion's dad is on tape asking for money and a job to send his kid to a school.
Roy Williams UNC is cleared in the fact that his players didn't go to class and still got grades and were eligible to play.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:51 am to GRTiger
It’s in my posts already, the government would have to say LSU was the victim. A stretch more than six months ago - not anymore.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:53 am to The First Cut
I don't agree with it.
I believe the ruling will be turned on appeal.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:54 am to ellessuuuu
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Don't think the FBI wants to get in the business of prosecuting college coaches for providing improper benefits.
Who ever thought that the US Congress would want to get involved in an investigation of PED's in Major League Baseball?
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:55 am to GumboPot
Yeah, I’m not saying he will or won’t get indicted, but all you have to do is read the SI story on the Dawkins convictions to see it’s absolutely not impossible that he will. That’s the reason Wade’s attorneys had him shut it all down.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:56 am to The First Cut
Wade is LSU here.
Why do you think they fought the inclusion of certain wiretaps? Why do you think they are now arguing bribery? Wade is a victim to the state much more so than a suspect or defendant.
Dawkins and the Adidas folks had a scheme. It is not possible for Wade to be charged for that same scheme because of his position.
Why do you think they fought the inclusion of certain wiretaps? Why do you think they are now arguing bribery? Wade is a victim to the state much more so than a suspect or defendant.
Dawkins and the Adidas folks had a scheme. It is not possible for Wade to be charged for that same scheme because of his position.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:59 am to The First Cut
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Yeah, I’m not saying he will or won’t get indicted, but all you have to do is read the SI story on the Dawkins convictions to see it’s absolutely not impossible that he will. That’s the reason Wade’s attorneys had him shut it all down.
And why Joe Alleva doesn't understand this is mind blowing considering the position he is in and taking the extra step to telegraph guilt like a kid caught with his hands in the cookie jar is further mind blowing.
A total and complete rash and unnecessary move by Alleva to suspend WW.
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