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re: Update on Will Wade Sanctions - Won't Receive Show Cause

Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8881 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:08 pm to
Once Wade’s transcript was leaked the NCAA was doing everything in its power to make an example of him.

Thought the Memphis NOA has been resolved and Penny was cleared…

LINK

That’s the same Independent panel overseeing LSU’s case.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 10:11 pm
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2146 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

why this thread wouldn't have been wacked by now if it there wasn't something to it


Happens all the time! How many claimed insiders posted bullshite, wrong stories that never got whacked? This is one of many. OP doesn’t know anything. Idiots read it and take it as gospel because they want to believe.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
28227 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

The handlers who “spilled the beans” did so to the FBI, not the NCAA. If the information didn’t come out in the two trials, guess what, the NCAA can’t get it. The NCAA actually filed a motion requesting the court to require the DOJ to make public some of the investigation docs and information, the DOJ laughed and the court denied the motion. These handlers didn’t cooperate with the NCAA. So no, the NCAA didn’t get information from handlers spilling the beans.


You keep making these blanket pronouncements, but you don’t know what the NCAA has or doesn’t have. You don’t know that none of the guys I’m talking about have also cooperated with the NCAA outside of that investigation. I’m well aware that the FBI didn’t share evidence. That doesn’t mean none of the same players or others who may have been implicated but skated in that investigation weren’t willing to share information with the NCAA. The guys in that world will trade information for all kinds of things or reasons.

You also have several men’s hoops investigations going on simultaneously. It’s an interconnected world when it comes to recruiting. Do you really believe the NCAA (or their independent board, which the NCAA still has a guiding hand in, by the way) wouldn’t use one investigation to pressure someone to roll on another coach or school they want more in another? My point is that they don’t have to depend on the FBI for information (and I never said they were). They have ways to get someone with information to talk on the record.

You seem to believe whole-heartedly that the NCAA has absolutely nothing. It may not be a smoking gun, but they’ve got something that will be enough to meet their fairly low standards for evidence. It’s just a matter of whether it’s as much as they let on that they have.
Posted by WhaddupDawg
In your heart
Member since Apr 2022
3833 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

Wades teams weren’t coached very well and he paid for talent. He had talent. I’ve never understood the melt over losing him.


Just admit you’re a dumbfrick who only follows football/baseball
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
28227 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:42 pm to
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Once Wade’s transcript was leaked the NCAA was doing everything in its power to make an example of him. Thought the Memphis NOA has been resolved and Penny was cleared… LINK That’s the same Independent panel overseeing LSU’s case.


I understand about Wade. Once the NCAA takes issue with a program or coach, they go after them as hard as they can. They would do the same to Cal, Pearl, etc if they had anything to get them with. That’s how they work.

I wasn’t sure if the Memphis NOA was 100% dealt with in the September release, but it looks like it was.

I know they cleared Penny, but there are still probation, fines, and some self-imposed penalties. My point was that the entire thing was a fishing expedition started because Memphis and Wiseman sued them. If you cross the NCAA, they come after you. That’s why programs don’t sue them.

In Memphis’ case, everything major tied back to Wiseman, and his eligibility ruling was based on the NCAA re-interpreting rules after initially declaring Wiseman eligible. In other words, it was all bullshite.

In Wade’s case, the 3 primary allegations have no link to the leaked FBI wiretaps. That’s why I still think it’s more than just a wild goose chase. It would be interesting to find out where they got that information from.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
69806 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

Wades teams weren’t coached very well and he paid for talent. He had talent. I’ve never understood the melt over losing him.



Wade was far from perfect, he had his areas of weakness but regardless he at least made LSU competitive and had them in the NCAAT routinely. He recruited very well and at least always had very good/solid talent coming in annually.


Paying players? Literally everyone does it so we need to stop the outrage like it doesn't happen. If you don't incentivize players in this day in age through whatever means that may be (Football or Basketball) you aren't going to recruit well because that is the name of the game today with NIL and the current landscape. And yes, if CMM doesn't get on that train, it will be difficult for him to land those big fish.


I am rooting for CMM to do well. I really am, he seems like a great guy but yes its been very disappointing with what we have seen so far. He inherited a tough situation but some things should be better than what it is right now. There seems to be no sense of urgency right now. I don't know if he lost the players but some things are a far cry from earlier in the year and played teams like Wake Forest/Kansas St and at least looked like we had a plan and played much better.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36626 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

How good was that Sean Miller team, did it make the tournament? So he left a bunch of players who weren’t very good.
He left 5 out of the top 6 guys who made it to the Sweet 16!!!!


Are you that far up Will Wade's arse that you can't admit that???????


Fess up!!!
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
204 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 12:30 am to
For those who already don't remember what it was like having a young, energetic and dynamic head BB coach who was building a winning program, listen to the interview Matt Moscona and Jonathan Pixley (formerly of Dunham) had with CWW a few months ago.

LINK

Pretty interesting insight on the condition of the physical facilities for the program and how LSU is far behind in the SEC when it comes to basic needs.

Also very interesting to hear Pixley thank WW for the relationships he built with Louisiana high school coaches.

Just listening got me fired up about the possibilities for the program and then remembering how we had a great thing going with him at the helm. A shame how it ended. I don't expect Final Fours, but the program under CWW made that hour drive each way for a 6pm weekday game much more palatable than under the new regime.
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
1817 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 12:42 am to
quote:

It just sucks that there wasn't a reason to fire CWW and Woodward set LSU basketball back years.


Really?
Woodward set is back? He’s responsible for the actions of CWW?
1. He got dealt a crappy hand from Alleva.

2. Everyone in college BB circles knew CWW was a cheat - before he came here. It only got worse, and he was a bad cheat at that.

3. CMM may not be the answer - still hope he’s able to build a team, but at least LSU as a brand won’t be a joke.
Posted by Vanilla Ice
2018 Saints Talk Poster of the Year
Member since Apr 2013
5455 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 12:44 am to
I’ve always been riding with Will Wade

frick everybody
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6244 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 12:46 am to
quote:

Its not like any of them were some young up and comers he identified

Who gives a shite you moron? It’s objectively much harder to convince 3 proven commodities to leave extremely solid programs for LSU. Watching the idiots on this board turn on Woodward and call for his head because he fired your buddy is watching why our state is a pathetic shithole in real time
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
30897 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:21 am to
You calling someone else a fanboy is the ultimate irony, you O bootlicker.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3889 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:43 am to
In reference to your point #2:

John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, and Jack the Ripper all knew Ted Bundy was a serial killer.

I REALLY get a kick out of people that watch big time college sports, and then criticize ANY COACH on the big time level for cheating.

They either conduct the cheating themselves, or in most cases, have it done for them.

OVER THE LAST 50+ YEARS, NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN FOOTBALL OR MEN'S BASKETBALL WITHOUT CHEATING. HEAVILY!!!!!
PERIOD. STOP!!!!

I implore you people to please get your head out of the sand and get a clue on how the real world works. It's not right, but it's how it is, and on THIS EARTH it won't be different until the end times. If y'all are that much against the cheating, maybe big time sports isn't for you.

Sorry for raising my voice.
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
2934 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:00 pm to
His wife’s father told him to fire G Wade and everything will go away (other sanctions) ! I think SW should have told Paw in law No we need to find a different way but he did what he was told to do and no more G. W. W. and I really liked GWW but it was so fricking stupid to say that on the phone , WTF was he thinking, I guess he trusted the A H , Never do Anything over phone, also with mics and cameras etc….
The only way you can do anything is write it down and show the other person then take the paper and BURN IT TO ASH !
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32104 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

but at least LSU as a brand won’t be a joke.


Yes, everyone respects programs that are among the worst in all of major conference basketball.

Kansas was banned from the NCAAT the year after winning a NC because of "cheating" by Larry Brown. Eddie Sutton got Kentucky in trouble. Indiana fired a coach because he purportedly choked a player and yelled at a student. Yet none of those programs were considered a "joke" because they, more or less, continued to win.

The "jokes" are the programs that have their game relegated to some obscure network because no one wants to watch them play. The "jokes" are teams where you can go out on a game night in the town where the school is located and can't find a single TV showing the game because that few people care. The jokes are teams that lose 14 straight games. In other words, what LSU basketball is this year.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13260 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

you O bootlicker.



O did win a National Championship.
I guess that doesn't mean much.
Then Woody struck. Started meddling.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12407 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:37 pm to
Goddamn ! We lost Will Wade for nothing ? Who the frick is running the motherfricking athletic Department at LSU ? You got to be kidding me !

frick Scott Woodward if Wade ends up in the conference. Somebody needs their sorry arse kicked !
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

So Scott fired CWW on the way home from practice over the phone before the NCAA Tournament because he wanted to bring in his own guy.


While neither you nor I know the full details, Scott likely fired WW because he lied to him and details in the report confirmed that.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11200 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Goddamn ! We lost Will Wade for nothing ? Who the frick is running the motherfricking athletic Department at LSU ? You got to be kidding me !

frick Scott Woodward if Wade ends up in the conference. Somebody needs their sorry arse kicked !


SOLID RANT!
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

I have learned CWW will NOT receive a show cause. He will be coaching college next year, was also told to keep an eye out for some potential SEC openings for him. So Scott fired CWW on the way home from practice over the phone before the NCAA Tournament because he wanted to bring in his own guy. Scott bent the knee to the NCAA when all he had to do was tell them to frick off.

Btw this is not a slight against CMM, yes the team is terrible but I don't think you can judge him till he gets a full offseason and recruiting/transfer portal period. I want CMM to succeed bc that means LSU basketball succeeds. It just sucks that there wasn't a reason to fire CWW and Woodward set LSU basketball back years.


I will now proceed to throw a brick through something I own

frick WOODY
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