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Unpopular question..Besides seeing your team do well on the field, what is benefit of NIL?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:42 pm
This is a little rambling: NIL has changed college football in so many ways. It seems like the consensus is that it is out of control. It seems like most people say it’s out of control bc players seem mercenary and work for the highest bidder. The thing that I’m hung up on is that most people do this in their careers and are applauded for it. “ I quit company A because company B offered me more, or I started my own business because I can do better financially”. What’s the difference?
The thing that has surprised me about NIL is how much money is out there to give to the players. Besides seeing your team do well on the field, what is the benefit? Where was this money being spent beforehand? Will companies evaluate the ROI and say it doesn’t make sense to pay a college celebrity a million for a run of Dr Pepper commercials? How much does Nissan pay the former players who won a Heisman? Those are the best in-season football commercials and surely they are not paying a million to each person.
The thing that has surprised me about NIL is how much money is out there to give to the players. Besides seeing your team do well on the field, what is the benefit? Where was this money being spent beforehand? Will companies evaluate the ROI and say it doesn’t make sense to pay a college celebrity a million for a run of Dr Pepper commercials? How much does Nissan pay the former players who won a Heisman? Those are the best in-season football commercials and surely they are not paying a million to each person.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 12:52 pm
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:51 pm to NewBeginnings
quote:NIL is now just pay for play. NIL money, for the most part, comes from rich donors and grassroots efforts like the Bayou Traditions. Rich donors just have that money the give growing in their bank accounts...it isn't a big deal for them to part with it.
Where was this money being spent beforehand?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:59 pm to NewBeginnings
The one time I made a career decision based solely on money, it was a disaster. I was miserable, and within a year, I switched to a company that prioritized my development, challenged me, and supported my growth both personally and professionally.
Recently, I transitioned to a new company due to growth opportunities. Despite taking a pay cut initially, within 1.5 years, I've been promoted and received raises that surpass what I earned after six years at my previous job.
Perhaps this is a lesson young professionals and these athletes need to learn early: true fulfillment and long-term success often come from roles/schools that offer growth and development that is best for you rather than just a higher paycheck.
I know my opinion doesn't count for much but hopefully, it helps answer your first paragraph
Recently, I transitioned to a new company due to growth opportunities. Despite taking a pay cut initially, within 1.5 years, I've been promoted and received raises that surpass what I earned after six years at my previous job.
Perhaps this is a lesson young professionals and these athletes need to learn early: true fulfillment and long-term success often come from roles/schools that offer growth and development that is best for you rather than just a higher paycheck.
I know my opinion doesn't count for much but hopefully, it helps answer your first paragraph
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:01 pm to Chicken
Just amazing how LSU rolled out the NILSU branding, only to staff the collective with losers. Unbelievable fumble by Scott Woodward.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:03 pm to NewBeginnings
The rich have always gotten richer. This is just another way. Remember that
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:08 pm to NewBeginnings
The primary benefits of NIL go to the players, mostly the top-end players.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:11 pm to NewBeginnings
I question the ROI also but I think the rich alumni that donate the real money don't care. As far as the Dr. Pepper, Quin Ewers, ads those are far and few between and the pay is probably still cheaper than using another celebrity.
When you were in high school were you being offered jobs all over the country with life changing money? i doubt it. That is what I hate about NIL...some kids may have dreamt about playing for one team but since another offered more they choose the money. No real loyalty.
When you were in high school were you being offered jobs all over the country with life changing money? i doubt it. That is what I hate about NIL...some kids may have dreamt about playing for one team but since another offered more they choose the money. No real loyalty.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:13 pm to NewBeginnings
quote:sports leagues are different, and free-market principles don't completely work.
I quit company A because company B offered me more, or I started my own business because I can do better financially”. What’s the difference?
Sports leagues need competitive games to make their product interesting. If there's no regulation, a few big-money teams will just buy all the good players. That's not good for the overall health of the league.
That's why pro leagues have salary caps and revenue sharing - to try to have some sort of parity that makes their product more appealing to fans.
And I'm a big-time free market guy - but sports leagues are different.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:14 pm to tigerbait2010
quote:why are you calling them losers?
Just amazing how LSU rolled out the NILSU branding, only to staff the collective with losers.
NIL was originally supposed to be businesses paying players to use their Name, Image and Likeness. LSU was coming off the investigation and was playing it straight. The pay for play aspect has only blown up in the last year...
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:34 pm to NewBeginnings
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NIL has changed college football in so many ways
It has only changed who is getting the money. The money has always been there. Coaches, Admin, Facilities, etc will eventually take a hit, it will be a trickle down.. Did LSU really need to spend 28 million on a locker room 5 years ago? .. I bet the players would have been happy with something decent for 5-7 mil, and then putting a 100k in their pocket.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:48 pm to NewBeginnings
It wasn’t about a benefit to this being better than the older model. It was a response to several pending lawsuits against NCAA that resulted in a quick decision without waiting on the NCAA profit-sharing model, which will start next year. Now there’s both…that’s the mistake that creates a need to unravel the NIL stuff. Think Will Wade (or don’t). This is all the fault of the NCAA for being greedy and praying their lawyers were better…they weren’t
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:01 pm to NewBeginnings
It does seem mind boggling that there are people willing to spend millions just for bragging rights. Well, maybe not.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:07 pm to Chicken
Chicken, I'm curious about donors. Is the payment to the players tax-deductible? If so, I see an avenue for wealthy donors to at least gain a write-off.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:09 pm to NewBeginnings
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:16 pm to mpwilging
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Contributions to Bayou Traditions do not qualify as charitable donations.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:22 pm to NewBeginnings
Look, the networks and universities and NCAA have made mucho dinero on the backs of football players FOR YEARS! Why should the players be cut out of it? I think something that inhibits school jumping may be a good idea but excluding players from making money has been nothing short of slave trade.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:27 pm to Chicken
Don’t Bayou Traditions donors get a poster and bumper sticker? That alone should be worth 15% of your yearly take home pay.
Even without the gift you should want to hand over as much as you can so some 17 year old who could not care less about LSU can be on the team for a semester. Even though that player is likely to transfer to another school after the season because he is upset that he didn’t start every game.
Even without the gift you should want to hand over as much as you can so some 17 year old who could not care less about LSU can be on the team for a semester. Even though that player is likely to transfer to another school after the season because he is upset that he didn’t start every game.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:38 pm to NewBeginnings
Grills, Tats, Cars, Jewels........gangsta life
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:41 pm to NewBeginnings
The money has been out there for DECADES, as have top recruits/players being paid. That didn't just start with NIL. Really, the biggest thing NIL has done is increase the payment "floor" for marginal/average players. The big names were ALWAYS getting paid. It was just under the table.
Not much. But that is the only "benefit" that matters. Ego and the desire to see your team win. It's basically like fantasy football for millionaires. They know it is not a sound financial investment. It's just them spending their discretionary income on entertainment. I.e. watching college football. The oil tycoon, tech billionaire, real estate mogul, hedge fund operator, etc can't go out and play QB. But he can buy the guys who can and help put together a team to help his favorite team win.
Just go look up the SMU scandal and the name Sherwood Blount. He was a Dallas real-estate millionaire and former SMU football player. He wanted SMU to beat the likes of Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, etc (all of whom were also paying players). So he bought the players to do it. It didn't help his real-estate business. But that wasn't the point. College football was his entertainment outlet
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Besides seeing your team do well on the field, what is the benefit?
Not much. But that is the only "benefit" that matters. Ego and the desire to see your team win. It's basically like fantasy football for millionaires. They know it is not a sound financial investment. It's just them spending their discretionary income on entertainment. I.e. watching college football. The oil tycoon, tech billionaire, real estate mogul, hedge fund operator, etc can't go out and play QB. But he can buy the guys who can and help put together a team to help his favorite team win.
Just go look up the SMU scandal and the name Sherwood Blount. He was a Dallas real-estate millionaire and former SMU football player. He wanted SMU to beat the likes of Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, etc (all of whom were also paying players). So he bought the players to do it. It didn't help his real-estate business. But that wasn't the point. College football was his entertainment outlet
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:41 pm to LSUbasketballfan
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want to hand over as much as you can so some 17 year old who could not care less about LSU
that's the funny part here. People just don't get it. They think they are important because they kick in a few dollars to help some 17 year old get a nice car, a gold chain, and grill....when next year they will be getting the same from a different school. F all that. Burn it down.
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