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re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:46 pm to Madking
Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:46 pm to Madking
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He beat Clemson and Michigan, programs that are multiple levels better than Mcneese
They also went 28-6 this year without him and lost to Nicholls St, South Dakota St, and Liberty with him last year if you want to use isolated game results to draw conclusions.
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:48 pm to MikeTheTiger71
That’s a deflection but he built the program lol. Mcneese had been to 2 tourneys in their entire history before him.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:48 pm to MikeTheTiger71
quote:I don't think I'm making too much of it.
Coaches that take 2 teams to the NCAAT by that age don’t usually get fired and have to start all over at the bottom. He is a good coach and certainly better than McMahon, but you’re making too much out of an anomaly that was at least partially a result of his own recklessness.
Certainly most coaches his age haven't gotten fired at a stop and also brought 4 different programs to the NCAAT. However, it certainly shows he can build/sustain a program. VCU was always a good mid-major, so he didn't build there, but maintained success. LSU was 2-16 SEC the season prior to Wade and he built a competitive program. McNeese State had a disaster of MBB history and he instantly made them an NCAAT team and in season 2, won their first ever game in the NCAAT. NCSU was 2 years removed from a miracle FF appearance when the coach was going to fired, and last year was a disaster. He instantly had the program in the NCAAT first season.
That's tremendously successful. Is he elite? Define elite? A FF by age 40 when he was fired from LSU? A NC by are 43 at McNeese State or NCSU the last 3 seasons? Are those the bars for elite status?
Dude is a much better coach than drive-by fans give him credit for, and certainly has room to improve. I think the next 2 decades - ages 43-63 is the peak window.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:49 pm to drizztiger
These are just double standards he’d never use to dismiss other coaches achievements. This is what they do
This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:51 pm to TigerFan244
Agreed
Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:53 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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The point is that when he was cheating Wade had a bigger budget than most schools.
Based on what?
Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:54 pm to TigerFan244
His success here was somewhat attributed to the league being pathetic at that time. While that’s certainly not the case now , his job is to get us in good half of league immediately. He will be judged by that . I have my doubts
Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:55 pm to redfish99
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His success here was somewhat attributed to the league being pathetic at that time.
Wtf are you talking about? The league was very strong while Wade was here.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:59 pm to Madking
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No you said that in his previous stint here he had more money than everybody
No, I didn’t.
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no the conference didn’t suck then.
They had a good year in 2019, but only averaged 2 Sweet 16 teams the other years Wade was there. Auburn in 2019 was the only team to make the Final 4.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:01 pm to TigerFan244
A coach that is already elite isn’t coming to LSU. The goal is to get a coach that is ascending, and reach elite status in BR, and hopefully keep him from a blue blood when they inevitably come calling.
I think Wade could get to that level.
I think Wade could get to that level.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:06 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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No, I didn’t.
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Wade had a bigger budget than most schools
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:06 pm to Madking
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That’s a deflection but he built the program lol. Mcneese had been to 2 tourneys in their entire history before him.
I never said he wasn’t a good coach, in fact, I said he was. My initial response that got you up in arms was to point out that he will not be in a better position financially relative to other conference schools now than he was the first go round. More conference schools have big budgets now than they did then. The fact that he will have a bigger budget doesn’t matter if everyone else does too.
I’m not saying he can’t win. I hope he takes the next step. A lot of you just seem to think he’s accomplished a lot more already than he actually has.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:07 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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he will not be in a better position financially relative to other conference schools
The exact opposite of reality
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:08 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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A lot of you just seem to think he’s accomplished a lot more already than he actually has.
That’s a straw man, the accomplishments are facts. What you’re doing is trying to erase and diminish those facts with unsubstantiated theories and false claims.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:09 pm to MikeTheTiger71
quote:Just seeing this. Laughable.
The point is that when he was cheating Wade had a bigger budget than most schools.
As most want to mention Wade's wife's checking account erroneously, how much money do you think was in that account? You know Zion's parents were living in an almost $1 million house his season at Duke, right?
You think Wade was pearsonally outbidding Duke, Kentucky, etc.?
Wow, all of your posts are very agenda based. He just needed a Sam Gilbert.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:10 pm to drizztiger
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Dude is a much better coach than drive-by fans give him credit for, and certainly has room to improve. I think the next 2 decades - ages 43-63 is the peak window.
I think he’s a good coach and he does have the potential to take the next step. There’s just a lot of projecting going on that’s based more on hope than actual accomplishments to-date.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:11 pm to TigerFan244
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Wade GOOD but not ELITE
I don’t even believe that is debatable. It’s true based on his history.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:11 pm to Madking
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quote:Wade had a bigger budget than most schools
Most schools is not “everyone”.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:14 pm to MikeTheTiger71
Semantics, there are 330+ college programs, having more than most covers hundreds of teams and now you’re crawfishing from the point of that statement which is fine because you’re admitting he didn’t have the huge advantage you previously alleged he did
This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 3/27/26 at 5:15 pm to BebeLudwig7
Wade has a shite ton of money to build a roster legally now. I’m telling you he will be the new age Calipari. X’s and O’s might not be elite, but our talent will..and that’s good enough to win a title or two. I expect a ton of sweet 16 appearances at minimum and I think that’s what most LSU bball fans would be stoked for. We want an annual top 25 team that can entertain and make the occasional noise in March.
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