re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE

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You’re full of shite as your last post clearly shows. You pointed out facts? by leaving out half of the topic to distort what was said and skip over the actual point. You can frick off now, you’re just a dishonest waste of time.

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What was the actual point? What’s your explanation for why Barnes and Oats are more successful now than they were during Wade’s first tenure when you acknowledge they were amongst the best coaches then? Why has the SEC sent more teams to the NCAA tournament, Sweet 16, and Final 4 than they did from 2018-2022? No one who’s been paying even the slightest attention thinks the SEC was stronger 2018-2022 than it has been 2023-2026. Because I missed your point about Mike White it invalidates my entire argument and nullifies the overall increased success of the conference?

I have no idea what point you think I’m making, but you keep arguing against points I didn’t make and assume I think things I do not. The one and only point I have made is that the SEC is stronger now than it was under Wade’s prior tenure because more SEC teams are pouring resources (and a lot more of them) into paying players.

Wade isn’t necessarily going to be at a disadvantage in the resources at his disposal, but he won’t have a built in advantage like he did relative to teams that weren’t cheating before. NIL and revenue sharing don’t put him in a better position when most other league schools have similar pools of money. I’m not saying he won’t be successful, only that there’s no reason to think money will make him MORE successful than last time.

If your theory were true Mike White would be having Matt McMahon type seasons but he isn’t because it isn’t. You don’t know what you’re talking about

You should see a doctor about that mental disorder.

He's just hitting his prime bruh.

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I just want to make the tourney and not be a punchline. Wade will do that.

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He will, but he needs to deliver a little more than just that for what he’s about to be paid. He needs to make a few Sweet 16s. He needs to get to an Elite 8. Not year one, but he needs to prove he can do more in the postseason by year 3.

You can’t do that unless you’re in the tourney every year or damn near every year. Thats the point and among active coaches only 4 have made it more consecutive times. Sampson made his first tourney in year 7 and didn’t make the sweet 16 until year 12. Wade was here for 5 years and you want him to have a resume that spans 34 seasons. Make that make sense.

Brown made it 10 straight years and look what happened. Dale wasn’t the greatest coach, he recruited well and had great assistants prior to the 90s but look at what you can accomplish by consistently putting yourself in position.

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Sampson made his first tourney in year 7 and didn’t make the sweet 16 until year 12. Wade was here for 5 years and you want him to have a resume that spans 34 seasons. Make that make sense.

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That’s all apples and oranges. Washington State is a terrible basketball job with a barely .500 record all-time an no major success in 80 years. Getting them to a tournament out of what was then a power conference is on par with getting Nebraska there now. It can be done, but it’s obviously completely against the historical grain. McNeese is a similar comparison for Wade, but not direct being in an era with free transfers and vs marginal mid and a lot of low major competition. The transfer situation is what really makes a direct comparison impossible.

I wasn’t even making a direct comparison to Wade. You’re just so fricking obsessed that you go looking for them where they don’t exist. I was merely referring to what makes two of the coaches you mentioned “elite.” You can’t claim any coach is if they haven’t made multiple deep tournament runs. That level of postseason success is an essential component of that lofty of a label.

As for Wade, saying he needs to have that success to be elite doesn’t mean people believe he can’t or won’t. He just needs to prove it. The same could have been said about Kiffin before finally making a playoff run last year. And he needs to prove he can do it more than once while at LSU to justify his lofty salary. He’s not elite either yet, but he’s closer than Wade at the moment based on last season.

As usual, just move the goalpost whenever the failed point is refuted. That’s all you guys ever do