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re: UNLV QB quits immediately over NIL
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:09 am to drizztiger
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:09 am to drizztiger
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:15 am to white beans
No it wasn’t. UNLV is not his employer.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:17 am to Allthatfades
This is the kind of thing that’s going to Kill the smaller schools
Take Tulane for instance- they happen to have a decent qb but it’s just a matter of time before a larger school comes in and snaps him up because they can get him more money.
It’s semi pro now and the Smaller schools are farm teams within the semi pro system.
Take Tulane for instance- they happen to have a decent qb but it’s just a matter of time before a larger school comes in and snaps him up because they can get him more money.
It’s semi pro now and the Smaller schools are farm teams within the semi pro system.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:24 am to LSU1SLU
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all the old people who dont like that will have to get over it.
Until you realize, those people are floating the bill for the rosters. At some point, they will get tired of having to shell out cash. Imagine Gayle benson having to beg saints fans to pay the roster yearly.
I get it, it’s the new era of CFB. Maybe this will bring contracts into things.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:29 am to Allthatfades
I'm guessing this was his plan all along.
He played 4 years at Holy Cross and then had an opportunity to grad transfer to a bigger program for final year of eligibility.
UNLV was probably one of a few options, but had the best chance of self-promotion in the first few games of this season. He will now use that little bit of tape to get to an even bigger school. The 4 game redshirt rule allowed the first 3 games to be his "tryout" for even bigger programs.
He's likely not an NFL guy, so don't really hold it against him to capitalize and get something with his final year of eligibility. He bet on himself and the exposure he would get if he was successful, and it could payoff for him.
Had UNLV and Sluka played poorly in first 3 games, he likely just rides out the season at UNLV.
He played 4 years at Holy Cross and then had an opportunity to grad transfer to a bigger program for final year of eligibility.
UNLV was probably one of a few options, but had the best chance of self-promotion in the first few games of this season. He will now use that little bit of tape to get to an even bigger school. The 4 game redshirt rule allowed the first 3 games to be his "tryout" for even bigger programs.
He's likely not an NFL guy, so don't really hold it against him to capitalize and get something with his final year of eligibility. He bet on himself and the exposure he would get if he was successful, and it could payoff for him.
Had UNLV and Sluka played poorly in first 3 games, he likely just rides out the season at UNLV.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:30 am to mjax57
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Until you realize, those people are floating the bill for the rosters.
or not.
and the people paying for NIL aren’t the ones screaming about how it sucks. they’re the ones doing it.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:47 am to John Casey
I see a lot of people in this post lack reading comprehension skills. UNLV made promises and waffled on them. They sold him a fake bill of goods to get him on campus and once there they said nah, we’re only giving ya 3k to relocate.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:52 am to Sevreaux
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Maybe it was a coach just making a promise out of his butt
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:52 am to Mandtgr47
Fellas you are thinking about this the wrong way... Stop comparing CFB to the NFL and banging your heads against the wall screaming for contracts, contracts, contracts. Those days will come but for now you need to compare CFB to....
Major League Baseball (with 30 or 32 major league teams) and the Minor Leagues (with 100 or whatever Single-A, AA, AAA teams).
CFB has maybe 30 major league teams (blue bloods Ohio State, Michigan, Bama, LSU, Georgia, USC, Texas, OU, Florida, Clemson, etc) and yes even some teams that have such an insane amount of booster money they will always compete for players even though they never win anything (aTm, Tennessee, Penn State, Notre Dame, hell even Nebraska).
Every other team is a minor league team, even teams in the Big10 or SEC (looking at you, Missouri, Iowa State, Michigan State, Miss State).
Any cfb player in the minors can be "called up" to another minor league team OR to the majors before they burn their redshirt. Also... any minor league player can "call himself up" to any other team for more $$ or a better NIL deal or whatever.
This is NOT going to ruin CFB. CFB is becoming it's own sport. It's not even a D-league for the NFL anymore. Players can get paid NOW and as a bonus might be lucky enough to make it to the NFL.
CFB is now just a 1-year league... just like MLB - any team can go from worst to first and make a run to the playoffs if they get hot in November. The only difference is Major League CFB allows one, just one, Minor League team into the Fall Classic just for shites and giggles. And every once in a while USF will get into the tourney with a hot qb and they go on the road and beat Michigan.
NOTHING will change with state laws until A MAJOR STAR PLAYER FROM THE YANKEES decides to reshirt before his fourth game AND TRANSFERS TO THE RED SOX OR DODGERS.
It could have happened this year - imagine if Qwinn Ewers had NOT been hurt, and TODAY the news drops that Arch Manning was redshirting and TRANSFERRING TO ALABAMA OR OHIO STATE for a $10M payday.
Texas would have re-written their state constitution tomorrow had that happened and then all other states by this time next year would have this figured out.
Major League Baseball (with 30 or 32 major league teams) and the Minor Leagues (with 100 or whatever Single-A, AA, AAA teams).
CFB has maybe 30 major league teams (blue bloods Ohio State, Michigan, Bama, LSU, Georgia, USC, Texas, OU, Florida, Clemson, etc) and yes even some teams that have such an insane amount of booster money they will always compete for players even though they never win anything (aTm, Tennessee, Penn State, Notre Dame, hell even Nebraska).
Every other team is a minor league team, even teams in the Big10 or SEC (looking at you, Missouri, Iowa State, Michigan State, Miss State).
Any cfb player in the minors can be "called up" to another minor league team OR to the majors before they burn their redshirt. Also... any minor league player can "call himself up" to any other team for more $$ or a better NIL deal or whatever.
This is NOT going to ruin CFB. CFB is becoming it's own sport. It's not even a D-league for the NFL anymore. Players can get paid NOW and as a bonus might be lucky enough to make it to the NFL.
CFB is now just a 1-year league... just like MLB - any team can go from worst to first and make a run to the playoffs if they get hot in November. The only difference is Major League CFB allows one, just one, Minor League team into the Fall Classic just for shites and giggles. And every once in a while USF will get into the tourney with a hot qb and they go on the road and beat Michigan.
NOTHING will change with state laws until A MAJOR STAR PLAYER FROM THE YANKEES decides to reshirt before his fourth game AND TRANSFERS TO THE RED SOX OR DODGERS.
It could have happened this year - imagine if Qwinn Ewers had NOT been hurt, and TODAY the news drops that Arch Manning was redshirting and TRANSFERRING TO ALABAMA OR OHIO STATE for a $10M payday.
Texas would have re-written their state constitution tomorrow had that happened and then all other states by this time next year would have this figured out.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:53 am to Sevreaux
We knew this was going to happen eventually. Too many people are promising things that they can't back up. The QB will be labeled a quitter, but the team didn't fulfill their agreement. It's 100% a business now.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:56 am to Sevreaux
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I see a lot of people in this post lack reading comprehension skills. UNLV made promises and waffled on them. They sold him a fake bill of goods to get him on campus and once there they said nah, we’re only giving ya 3k to relocate.
Maybe. Maybe not.
It's all he said-she said.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:02 pm to John Casey
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Maybe. Maybe not.
It's all he said-she said.
Even if it were a verbal agreement there has to be emails, texts, or DMs talking about it. Show proof that it happened or I tend to side with the school since they can't really prove something didn't happen.
But the kid and his agent are dumb for not getting it in writing.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:16 pm to mjax57
quote:if you moved your family to a completely new area of the United States because a company promised you a 180k + salary but your first day they told you that you would only be paid 75k would you quit to?
It’s an easy out to say. Guy quit on his teammates.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:20 pm to Jim Hopper
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if you moved your family to a completely new area of the United States because a company promised you a 180k + salary but your first day they told you that you would only be paid 75k would you quit to?
Did I get it in writing?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:21 pm to USAFTiger42
Hope they have their shots
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:23 pm to tigerskin
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Maybe it was a coach just making a promise out of his butt
This. Sounds like someone on the coaching staff was making promises without the permission of the collective.
At the end of the day, it was probably really dumb of the family and his agent to transfer to a school without any sort of contract or something in writing. It’s also really scummy of the school/coaches to promise $100k to a guy and not pay him.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:24 pm to Allthatfades
$100,000 offer from asst and QB has an agent. Maybe I missed it, but college players are now allowed to have agents negotiating deals? If so, this is ridiculous.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:30 pm to Allthatfades
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The senior has completed 21 of 48 passes for 318 yards and six touchdowns with one interception
Imagine throwing up mediocre numbers like this, then trying to strong arm a whole university for money

Get your books and go to class you selfish, entitled POS
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:05 pm to mjax57
quote:agreed, and it's not just the out-of-pocket player expenses that the university is shouldering
This if far from a job and a dumb analogy. Do you have a clue on the expenses that each student athlete takes on for the athletic department? Athletes should just reap profits without any expense? This is an employee mindset. As a business owner, this is comical.
The players get to use facilities that cost hundreds of millions of dollars, if not more, to build and maintain. And the players benefit from the brand of the university, which has been built over many decades. And the players get massive exposure due to TV contracts, again because of the university. The value that the players get from the university is huge, regardless of whatever cash they may also be getting.
I agree with you -- it's far too simplistic just to say "the school makes a ton of revenue" so the players should get paid a lot.
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