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re: True or False: A National Top 3 Defense....

Posted on 6/20/10 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56945 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 2:37 pm to
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and JJ's dink and dunk passing game (no true vertical threat) can win LSU 10 games.


If we have a running game...without a doubt.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10125 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

without a doubt

+1
Teams win on the short game all the time, with a rushing attack to complement it.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60739 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

If we have a running game...without a doubt.


This thread is basically just a well disguised Saban thread.
Posted by Cabby
Baba Booey Land
Member since Jan 2005
5764 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

If we're only putting up 20 points/game, we have serious issues.


I don't disagree with you at all, I was just saying that is you had a truly dominate defense that is really all you would need to get 10 wins!
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80858 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 3:00 pm to
We wont be a top 3 defense, but if we are, then to answer your question: YES
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

True or False: A National Top 3 Defense and JJ's dink and dunk passing game (no true vertical threat) can win LSU 10 games.


It depends...







...on the running game.

Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 3:29 pm to
quote:


Not sure we have a top 3 SEC defense.
You understand that it's not necessary for us to have one in order to answer the question, right? It's a hypothetical.
I'll go ahead and say "yes" to the original question.

Agreed Doc. yes to the hypothetical.
Posted by darbour21
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2006
2146 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 3:52 pm to
if we had a top 3 defense we could get to 11 wins.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Yes. Absolutely. We almost won 10 games last year without a Top 3 defense.
It amazes me that people forget this.

Also, JJ and McElroy put up very similar stat lines, as we had similar dink and dunk offenses. So, see last year's Bama team of what you can do with a pedestrian offense and terrific defense. Admittedly, they also had a great running game. But that's the obvious ceiling with a limited pass game and a great defense: the national title.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7008 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 5:04 pm to
Yes, 10 wins are possible without a top 3.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22807 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 5:12 pm to
10 WINS ARE GUARANTEED if we have a top 3 D and a decent running game.
Posted by Fulgrim
Member since Dec 2009
303 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 5:20 pm to
JJ has to be able to sustain some drives. He's got to put a series of first downs together to keep the D off the field and score some points.

It doesn't matter how high your D is ranked, if they can't get off the field, they'll be exhausted by the 4th quarter and anyone can run over them.

Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4205 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 5:29 pm to
You can havethe best defense in the nation but if your offense can't help you, then the defensive stats and moral will suffer.
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21064 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 5:42 pm to
so - is it true or false?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

True or False: A National Top 3 Defense
False.
Posted by Paulu
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2006
4440 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 6:32 pm to
without 3 sacks a game, turnovers and some running game, YES
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22870 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 9:27 pm to
Well McElroy is not that good. He is a national champion because he had an elite rushing game and defense.

Jefferson could have done the same thing for Bama last year so the answer is yes.
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4298 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 9:32 pm to
Top 3 defense - we compete for NC no matter who our QB

True
Posted by OUandLSUfan
Malibu, California
Member since Feb 2010
1375 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 10:57 pm to
To be a great team you need at least 1 big time skill position player.

And BTW great team doesn't equal national championship for example 2006 florida isn't a great team but 2008 USC is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263331 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 12:52 am to
Don't think Chavis defense will ever be top 5 total defense, but possibly scoring D. I say yes. If the defense is stingy enough LSU can win 10 games.

The problem as I see it, this defense has no choice but to be ultra stingy.
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