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Transfer Portal...how many?

Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:41 pm
Posted by geauxdaddy
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Nov 2009
558 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:41 pm
Can someone outline what the rules are when it comes to signing players from the portal?

Is there a set number? Does a spot open up for each player you lose? Can you sign in lieu of spots not filled in recruiting?

I'm confused as hell, thanks in advance.


Posted by Shaq4prez
The Deaf Dome
Member since Oct 2021
3002 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:42 pm to
A zillion
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
3006 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:45 pm to
I don’t know the rules either. What I can tell you if I was a damn good player I’d put LSU on my short list because more than likely you can get plenty of playing time quickly.
Posted by MidLineVeer
Southwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
665 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:48 pm to
We can only take 7.

Not really but the endless confusion on this has been additive.

I feel you get as many HS kids that you trust are the right caliper. Then fill the remaining spots with portal guys. Looking at what is left unsigned my guess is we finish with 20 HS and 10 Portal. 2 spots left for kids who enter portal in the spring.
Posted by blizzle
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2009
925 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:49 pm to
Incoming transfers count toward your 25 scholarship per year limit. Additionally, this year you’re allowed to sign up to 7 more transfers to replace outgoing transfers. This number is capped at the number of outgoing transfers. I think the plan is to make the 7 “replacement” transfer thing a permanent rule.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10520 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:52 pm to
We essentially have 18 spots left. They can all be transfers if need be. 7 extra spots were added to the 25 man class limit to help coaches with roster management and the portal. Of the 18 remaking spots, I suspect 12-14 will be used for transfers.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26654 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:53 pm to
You can sign 25 no matter where they come from.

You can sign an additional 7 from the portal.

Total of 32.

Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk.
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 10:29 pm
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1780 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:15 pm to
The endless confusion is the NCAA or whoever is now in charge not having a plan for this mess. Isn't there an organization that is supposed to keep college football running smoothly? If so, they must be asleep or on crack.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9292 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

I'm confused as hell

Doesn’t help that a ton of folks spout off incorrect information with an impressive amount of confidence.

You get 25 “initial counters” a year. This effectively means 25 players who are accepting scholarships from LSU for the first time (hence the “initial” part). Those players can be high school recruits or transfers.

This year, the NCAA added a waiver to exceed the initial counter cap in order to replace players that transferred out. We get one additional initial counter (up to a total of 7 extra) for each player that transfers out of the program, provided:
1. The player transfers out between 12/15/21 and 7/31/22. (Note: The start date might actually be 12/11/21. I’m not sure how exactly the NCAA/LSU define “the last day of the fall term.”)
2. The player would have been academically eligible at LSU for the next term, had they not transferred.

So you get your standard 25 initial counters, plus up to 7 additional initial counters from the transfer waiver, plus any other extra initial counters you have (e.g. back-counting scholarships, midyear replacement, etc.) from normal loopholes. For all intents and purposes it’s safe to assume it’s 25 plus 0-7 depending on how many qualifying transfers we have.

Those 25-32 initial counters can be used on either high school recruits, JUCO, or transfer portal guys; it doesn’t matter and is completely up to the coach. I think we can also use the extra initial counters for 2023 early enrollees (the normal “back-counting” process when you sign less than a full class) if we don’t use them.

ETA: We only get the full 7 extra spots if we have 7+ players who depart between the end of the 2021 fall semester (mid December) and July 31, 2022. We don’t get to sign any additional players for guys who depart before that period.

On the flip side, its actually not just transfers that count as “departures.” According to the NCAA Q&A document, NFL draft early entrants qualify as well as long as they would have remained academically eligible the following semester.

I suspect the academic eligibility piece may burn us for some guys. If a player declared for the draft as an early entrant (e.g. still had remaining eligibility) and opted out of the bowl because he didn’t make the grades to stay academically eligible, we won’t get an extra spot for his departure.
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 10:54 pm
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
96127 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:17 pm to
I think you explained it best GeauxLSU4
I was just reviewing the top remaining guys already in the portal. Seems pretty weak!
Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
964 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:57 am to
Nice explanation man.

One big factor concerning portal guys is NIL. Might even be more important than playing time although any player likely to get an NIL deal are going to be playing.
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8720 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:27 am to
quote:

If so, they must be asleep or on crack.
If they’re on crack, they wouldn’t be asleep, and would probably do a better job than the NCAA has.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22369 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 5:11 am to
Definitely need a C, some DBs, and some LBs.
Posted by EdOrgeronsChin
Member since Sep 2020
254 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:11 am to
So how many transfers can we actually expect to pick up based on that information. Meaning, how many guys in the portal leaving within that window so far?

Eli Ricks
Trey Palmer
Max Johnson
Bug Strong
Can't think of any others off hand.

Wasn't sure if Eli Ricks was within the window as well.

The other tough reality, and its been stated here before, is that there are very few established big time guys in the portal (for obvious reasons), and the few that are seem to have committed somewhere else already. Hoping the end of the season brings fresh faces to the portal, otherwise we will be signing a lot of guys mainly for depth and not for actual contributions.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 7:35 am
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1621 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:28 am to
What's nuts is that you can lose an unlimited amount but can only add 7. This should be changed to however many you lose you can add that many.
Posted by Lowes knowsLSU
Texas
Member since May 2021
1400 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:04 am to
Not sure how many for the portal only but I know lsu can take a maximum of 17 more players junior college transfers, transfer portal and commitments to be enrolled with 15 currently and 14 have enrolled at lsu
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19810 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:05 am to
7
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:06 am to
quote:

So how many transfers can we actually expect to pick up based on that information. Meaning, how many guys in the portal leaving within that window so far?

Eli Ricks
Trey Palmer
Max Johnson
Bug Strong
Can't think of any others off hand.

Wasn't sure if Eli Ricks was within the window as well.

The other tough reality, and its been stated here before, is that there are very few established big time guys in the portal (for obvious reasons), and the few that are seem to have committed somewhere else already. Hoping the end of the season brings fresh faces to the portal, otherwise we will be signing a lot of guys mainly for depth and not for actual contributions.




dont forget the nfl guys, if they remained academic elgible you can replace those too.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12862 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Eli Ricks
Trey Palmer
Max Johnson
Bug Strong
Can't think of any others off hand.

I THINK anyone who transfrred after the spring session (i.e. during this season) up to May 1st coming up will count towards the 7... so:

Arik Gilbert
Landon Jackson
Deion Smith (if completed)
Peyton Badyrka (completed?)
Nate Harris
Koy Moore
Dare Rosenthal
TJ Finley

Were too early: Maurice Hampton, Ray Thorton

I do not know, but do the following count against our 7 extra because they transferred in during that same window (haven't seen that question asked, I assume NO):
- Bradford
- Burns
Posted by EdOrgeronsChin
Member since Sep 2020
254 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:19 am to
That's the big concern for quite a few of them. I know Damone Clark graduated, so he was definitely eligible, and I am assuming TDP was, but cannot confirm. Not sure on Flott. The rest I believe were in their last year of eligibility, which if I am not mistaken, doesn't count toward the transfer rule.
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