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re: Tired of bashing JJ threads...
Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:55 am to irvchilichill1
Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:55 am to irvchilichill1
The only time JJ calls plays is after a team timeout. Please enlighten me on what plays he called.
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:58 am to thibodauxtigah
We ran that double high ball screen play about 10-15 times.
One of the players rolls to the goal, and then Simmons comes back and sets another screen.
It got Quarterman a couple threes when OU defenders went under screens, but I thought overall it just created a lot of clutter.
But we kept running it again and again.
One of the players rolls to the goal, and then Simmons comes back and sets another screen.
It got Quarterman a couple threes when OU defenders went under screens, but I thought overall it just created a lot of clutter.
But we kept running it again and again.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:11 am to BayouBengals03
We ran plays? I particularly liked the call where LSU held onto the ball till the shot clock was at 5, then the first movement from our offense would happen then they would jack up a 3. The entire second half. Not to mention brilliant move to sub 3 starters at once including Craig Victor which was a major contribution to giving up the lead in the second.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:25 am to lsutigertalk
Epps 3 at the end of the half was desinged play
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:33 am to irvchilichill1
Simmons plays like a bitch compared to his hype, talent/skill and CJJ is not good enough to coach serious SEC/Natty contender. Let's agree and move on.
This post was edited on 2/1/16 at 1:37 am
Posted on 2/1/16 at 6:42 am to BayouFann
the offense stands still way to often, many times they run the shot clock down and quarterman goes to the goal, JJ needs to tell ben to take more shots, i dont remember the stat, but the are like 6-7 when he attempts less than 10fgs, thats coaching, He need to touch the ball at least 2 times every time down the court, the offense they run is terrible, it needs to run through Ben, he doesnt need to dribble down the court, and then let quarterman run the offense while he watches from the free throw line
This post was edited on 2/1/16 at 6:44 am
Posted on 2/1/16 at 6:51 am to c on z
Only time will make that go away !
Posted on 2/1/16 at 7:33 am to irvchilichill1
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We have to remember that we are a young team, outside of Hornsby and with that there is a learning curve
The "youth" excuse doesn't work in basketball.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 7:58 am to Pnels08
quote:TQ, Hornsby, Gray, etc. are what exactly? Victor is almost 21 and Patterson is 20.
Well if you look at it most of the top 15 teams are full of seniors and juniors.
Simmons has the maturity of a 5th year senior.
So Blakeney coming off the bench makes us a young team?!?
Posted on 2/1/16 at 7:59 am to atltiger6487
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The "youth" excuse doesn't work in basketball.
Well that's an ignorant statement.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:16 am to mmcgrath
I mean We start a senior, junior, freshman, sophomore whose played 2 half seasons and a sophomore. Coming off the bench is one senior, fresh, and soph.
So 3/8 are upperclassmen. Which isn't bad but the top 15 is mostly starting lineups full of upperclassmen.
Like I said we have been a top 30/25 team since victor joined us.
So 3/8 are upperclassmen. Which isn't bad but the top 15 is mostly starting lineups full of upperclassmen.
Like I said we have been a top 30/25 team since victor joined us.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:18 am to irvchilichill1
You are absolutely right! And the same goes for every other coach we have ever had. Every body knows more about coaching than the coaches. But that is too much rationale for this bunch. Duck and cover! Me too! 
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:18 am to Pnels08
Like Butt said the teams relying on their freshman classes this year have struggled, UK,Duke,Cal, and us. But teams like tamu who brought in a good class and added it with their seniors and juniors have had a great season. Just saying there is weight to having seniors.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:20 am to Pnels08
quote:I would argue that only applies to half of the top 15. What about 16 - 25 (or whatever rank LSU is)? Are they all senior driven too?
I mean We start a senior, junior, freshman, sophomore whose played 2 half seasons and a sophomore. Coming off the bench is one senior, fresh, and soph.
So 3/8 are upperclassmen. Which isn't bad but the top 15 is mostly starting lineups full of upperclassmen.
Like I said we have been a top 30/25 team since victor joined us.
And to describe Victor as young in one sentence, then talk about how we missed him in the next is having your cake and eating it too.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:27 am to irvchilichill1
Then don't log on to ESPN or any other credible national media analyst because the criticism is not contained to this board. He is a career .500 coach in the Sun Belt that got hired at LSU because he played at LSU, not because he was the best candidate for the job.
He has managed to reopen the recruiting pipelines that were here when Dale was coaching, however, he has done very little with the talent he has had. At the end of the day, he's slightly over his head at LSU and everyone in the country got to see it on Saturday.
He has managed to reopen the recruiting pipelines that were here when Dale was coaching, however, he has done very little with the talent he has had. At the end of the day, he's slightly over his head at LSU and everyone in the country got to see it on Saturday.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:28 am to mmcgrath
Which teams don't rely on senior leadership in their starting lineup? Maryland starts a fresh and a soph I think.
Off the top of my head: UNC,Tamu,Nova,Xavier,OU,Iowa,Iowa State,Michigan State, Providence,Kansas,Miami,UVA
I am confused about your last statement?
Off the top of my head: UNC,Tamu,Nova,Xavier,OU,Iowa,Iowa State,Michigan State, Providence,Kansas,Miami,UVA
I am confused about your last statement?
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:44 am to mmcgrath
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Simmons has the maturity of a 5th year senior.
are you serious?
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:46 am to lsutigertalk
Yes, we certainly ran plays. The Epps shot, Hornsby 3 off the screen, and the hi low action is a staple in the offense and it needs to be.
Now, could Johnny do better designing an offense, yes. I think part of his problem is trying to utilize a big like Ben as an initiator of the offense. He is still trying to figure out how to run sets to take advantage of his skill set.
I for one thought Ben was handling the ball too much, on breaks and to start the offense after fast breaks, but watching Ben be so indecisive and passive on the blocks that whole 2nd half, has made me realize that he's almost not comfortable with his back to the basket.
However, I feel JJ has to make Ben develop on the blocks for our best chance to not go into lulls when the shots are not falling. Saturday they were falling, but Hield was matching every time and kept them in it until their experience won out.
Like I said, I wish we had one more low post offensive presence to be able to get easy buckets when things get tight.
And as for experience, Hornsby, Gray, Patterson and TQ are the only members that significantly contributed to last year's team. 2 seniors, 2 sophomores. The rest of the team is new to this.
We don't have 5 all Americans to offset our meager experience. So let's stop acting like it's not a factor especially against skilled teams with all Americans and Naismith contenders who are juniors and seniors.
The only players in the country that readily comes to mind to do what Hield did is Ole Miss Moody and Melo Trimble and about 5 players left in the country, if I took the time out to think about it, maybe less.
Johnny is not perfect, but to keep bashing and acting like he's absurdly inferior to most opposing coaches is asinine. He is a guard centric coach trying to make a generational point forward fit his scheme when he maybe should be utilized on the blocks in half court sets and running the wing on fast breaks or kicking it out to a guard up court to apply pressure in transition. That's my chief gripe with the scheme we run, but Ben was probably promised certain things, in terms of showcasing his point guard skills and he has to honor that.
The team is playing much better, roles are becoming more defined, rotations are getting better and according to is performing on given night, guard wise. Grey didn't play a tremendous amount because TQ was on and Patterson is bringing calm to the backcourt now.
If Elbert could give anything more and be a reliable post presence and defender, we could be a Top 5 team. It's that thin of a line.
Now, could Johnny do better designing an offense, yes. I think part of his problem is trying to utilize a big like Ben as an initiator of the offense. He is still trying to figure out how to run sets to take advantage of his skill set.
I for one thought Ben was handling the ball too much, on breaks and to start the offense after fast breaks, but watching Ben be so indecisive and passive on the blocks that whole 2nd half, has made me realize that he's almost not comfortable with his back to the basket.
However, I feel JJ has to make Ben develop on the blocks for our best chance to not go into lulls when the shots are not falling. Saturday they were falling, but Hield was matching every time and kept them in it until their experience won out.
Like I said, I wish we had one more low post offensive presence to be able to get easy buckets when things get tight.
And as for experience, Hornsby, Gray, Patterson and TQ are the only members that significantly contributed to last year's team. 2 seniors, 2 sophomores. The rest of the team is new to this.
We don't have 5 all Americans to offset our meager experience. So let's stop acting like it's not a factor especially against skilled teams with all Americans and Naismith contenders who are juniors and seniors.
The only players in the country that readily comes to mind to do what Hield did is Ole Miss Moody and Melo Trimble and about 5 players left in the country, if I took the time out to think about it, maybe less.
Johnny is not perfect, but to keep bashing and acting like he's absurdly inferior to most opposing coaches is asinine. He is a guard centric coach trying to make a generational point forward fit his scheme when he maybe should be utilized on the blocks in half court sets and running the wing on fast breaks or kicking it out to a guard up court to apply pressure in transition. That's my chief gripe with the scheme we run, but Ben was probably promised certain things, in terms of showcasing his point guard skills and he has to honor that.
The team is playing much better, roles are becoming more defined, rotations are getting better and according to is performing on given night, guard wise. Grey didn't play a tremendous amount because TQ was on and Patterson is bringing calm to the backcourt now.
If Elbert could give anything more and be a reliable post presence and defender, we could be a Top 5 team. It's that thin of a line.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:53 am to irvchilichill1
It is the "low-hanging fruit" mentality of many people who post on internet message boards. The easiest thing to do, without putting much thought or effort into it, is to just automatically bash the coach. They see others do it, so they jump on the bandwagon. They used words such as "unacceptable" and "inexcusable", yet don't take any action to get anything done.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 9:15 am to irvchilichill1
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As for our early season struggles, young team without all its pieces trying to gel, is how I see it. Should we have won a fee more games, yes, but it is what it is.
Sweet, so if LSU misses the NCAA tournament with the #1 NBA draft pick we'll just shrug our shoulders and say "it is what it is", no biggie.
The "young team trying to gel" is not a good argument considering the below average teams that we lost to OOC.
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