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re: This is the year of McMahon?

Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:09 am to
Posted by GeauxHouston
Midland, Texas
Member since Nov 2013
4576 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:09 am to
I think tournament is a realistic expectation. Hell we were a couple wins away from doing that this season. We have some nice transfers coming in and are returning some important pieces.

Cannot have early season mishaps against small schools.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 10:10 am
Posted by GeauxHouston
Midland, Texas
Member since Nov 2013
4576 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:10 am to
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That’s false and has been debunked dozens of times. The entire roster was still here when he was hired.

The only one that stayed was Mwani?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
58316 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Setting up a lot of excuses and our program's history isn't a valid one since every coach since Dale has made the tourney at least once by the end of year 3.


Long-term program history is that we have never seriously been a threat to win a national championship and recent history is that basketball has been third fiddle (or worse) when it comes to resources and support for the last 20+ years.

You can argue about the hire of McMahon, but there is no argument about

1) The state and negativity surrounding the MBB program when he was hired.

2) The history of LSU's MBB program nationally.

3) LSU athletics and specifically MBB's place when it comes to providing top-tier NIL dollars on a consistent basis.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27784 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:13 am to
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That’s false and has been debunked dozens of times. The entire roster was still here when he was


So wait, you honestly believe all those kids jumped in the portal and left because of McMahon and his acumen as a coach?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
49367 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:13 am to
Williams stayed too
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
49367 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:15 am to
Everyone was here when he was hired. Thats all I said, this excuse that everyone left before he got here is false. You can lookup the dates, McMahon was hired on like March 20,21st, the portal didn’t even open for nearly a month after.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
38075 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:20 am to
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Long-term program history is that we have never seriously been a threat to win a national championship
Who said anything about a NC?
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The state and negativity surrounding the MBB program when he was hired
Which part? The fans pissed we fired a well liked coach? Or the constant regurgitation from Dickie V and Pat Forde?
quote:

The history of LSU's MBB program nationally.
3 Final Fours and an additional Elite Eight? There are many schools that can’t claim that.
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LSU athletics and specifically MBB's place when it comes to providing top-tier NIL dollars on a consistent basis.
You have no idea how much NIL MBB has. Just making shite up.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
72126 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:28 am to
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3) LSU athletics and specifically MBB's place when it comes to providing top-tier NIL dollars on a consistent basis.

This is not an excuse for a coach of the basketball program in an athletic department like LSU's, it's an indictment. The money is there, go fight for your piece of the it. That's part of the job now. Plenty coaches at SEC schools having to do the same and succeeding.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 10:29 am
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7176 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:15 am to
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seems like McMahon is constructing his rosters here as though we're a mid-major. Heavy on guards but lack size and toughness down low.


Such a casual basketball fan take
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8542 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:56 am to
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I mean let's set realistic expectations given our program's history and resources and not some abstract "it has to be a big step forward".

Steady progress next season is what's needed. Anyone saying different is not serious about giving McMahon a fair shake


No, the expectations are set by the prior coach. We blew up the program so we could virtue signal to the NCAA and SEC, then you damn well better spend the money to get the program back to that point. It’s year 3 and we’re not even in the same ballpark as the prior staff.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8542 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:57 am to
As well as Miller. Replacing 9 players in the portal era isn’t that big of a deal.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
1824 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 12:20 pm to
This should be the most talent he has had. We need to see Big Improvement if there is to be any hope for this program. It is basically at the point that no one gives a Rats A$$ as it is.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14811 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 12:49 pm to
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I think rebounding is going to be an issue for this team again. It seems like McMahon is constructing his rosters here as though we're a mid-major. Heavy on guards but lack size and toughness down low.


I absolutely think roster construction is an issue the year zero folks skirt past conveniently. The recruiting/transfer gets have actually been fairly well rated, relatively speaking, but the lack of toughness is something that has been glaring IMHO.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
6170 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Who thinks he makes the tournament?


That should be the goal without a doubt. If we stumble next year, I can see the excuses continuing too. It’s baffling.

I have real reservations about McMahon. He seems like a stand up guy but I do wonder if he’s in over his head here.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13336 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 1:30 pm to
Year 2 of CMM allayed some of the Year 1 fears I had about CMM's abilities. But it is TALENT that wins big in NCAA MBB. We shall see if the talent in 24-25 can get us into tournament contention.

I'll be there as I have been since 1969 when I was a frosh at LSU. MBB/WBB are the sports my wife and Iove the most at LSU even though we also have fball and baseball season tickets.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54747 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 1:35 pm to
McMahon needs to make the tournament this year. He got lsu to the NIT the next step is the tournament. Keep moving forward
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24862 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:24 pm to
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I absolutely think roster construction is an issue the year zero folks skirt past conveniently.

Yet other coaches did it in year 1. I don’t buy this excuse.
Posted by Lige
Member since Nov 2015
1491 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:31 pm to
Many in the Rant said he was trash and always would be after his first loss.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
19022 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:44 pm to
All the players left when Mac was hired because we were staring down the gun barrel of big time probation. If NIL hadn't happened, we would have been hammered by the NCAA. Mac's '24 class was just ranked # 10 by ESPN.
Posted by Lige
Member since Nov 2015
1491 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:54 pm to
I agree.
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