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re: This is a stat that should make every LSU fan uneasy
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:29 pm to Nutriaitch
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:29 pm to Nutriaitch
quote:That's because he's not one of them. He's one of us!
a year ago he publicly begged for the Syracuse job and didn't even get an interview.
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:30 pm to tigerpimpbot
U571 - solid movie. As for O apologist, their opinion is no better or worse than yours. I don't get the love for some of the names tossed out there. For all we know, they could be the next Urban Meyer, or the next Charlie Strong. The reality is Coach Orgeron seems to stay out the hair of his coordinators. He is a master recruiter as well. The crux to me isn't hiring coach O, it is keeping Aranda and hiring a top notch OC. The DC seems good to go once the ink dries. The OC is the big question. I don't get the constant bitching about a decision that has already been made. As for Aleva, he is now tied to O. It all seems pretty simple to me. If LSU succeeds with Orgeron, Aleva hit a home run. If not, he struck out and they both should be gone. I hated CLM as a coach, but I didn't post as many negative spots about him in 11 years as some people have about Orgeron in less than two weeks. Let see how it plays out.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:31 pm to clamdip
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That's because he's not one of them. He's one of us!
they missed out on the binder.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:37 pm to tlsu15
Zebras don't change their stripes.
Coaches don't just miraculously get good when they have sucked.
Orgeron is a classic example of the Peter principal,
except we don't know that he, without explanation, hasnt catapulted past his level of competence in historical fashion. He may have failed as a DC, we will never know. What we do know, and what we see in your post is it is highly unlikely and improbable that O will do any better here than he did Ole Miss, in relation to SEC success.
If you give me a race car mid race and all the shite is bolted on tight and running good, I may make a pretty good race car manager. But let one thing screw up and I don't have a clue how to fix it for the next race...that is O in his roles as an interim versus a permanent coach. We are in for a world of hurt IMO.
Coaches don't just miraculously get good when they have sucked.
Orgeron is a classic example of the Peter principal,
except we don't know that he, without explanation, hasnt catapulted past his level of competence in historical fashion. He may have failed as a DC, we will never know. What we do know, and what we see in your post is it is highly unlikely and improbable that O will do any better here than he did Ole Miss, in relation to SEC success.
If you give me a race car mid race and all the shite is bolted on tight and running good, I may make a pretty good race car manager. But let one thing screw up and I don't have a clue how to fix it for the next race...that is O in his roles as an interim versus a permanent coach. We are in for a world of hurt IMO.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:38 pm to clamdip
Emmert didn't want Skip btw, at least not before they had conducted a national search, this was beginning of the return of the good ole baws and our decline..
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:42 pm to tigerfoot
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If you give me a race car mid race and all the shite is bolted on tight and running good, I may make a pretty good race car manager. But let one thing screw up and I don't have a clue how to fix it for the next race...that is O in his roles as an interim versus a permanent coach. We are in for a world of hurt IMO.
This is what I've been saying. Peopke equating an interim performance to permanent HC are clueless. Alleva's incompetence is hard to stomach as an LSU fan.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:43 pm to ecb
I was surprised by the Skip hire as AD, but at least he has a spine and truly is willing to dig in and fight for what is best for LSU. Would you trust him or Alleva more with the next football hire?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:46 pm to tigerfoot
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Coaches don't just miraculously get good when they have sucked.
Sure they do-- Saban, Dietzel, Johhnny Majors, Mack Brown all had losing records or close to .500 their first 3 years. They all won National Championships after they sucked.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:49 pm to tigerfoot
So Mr. Orgeron (I won't say coach since your race car driver analogy implies you are an automotive dipshit that would confuse oil and gas), could get all wound up and 1) spike the ball on 4th down, 2) try long field goals giving opponents short fields on what will obviously be a short attempt 3)yada tada. I would assume your pit crew would assist you in your racing endeavors- but frick that. Based on your analogy, all of Orgeron's assistants are going to hang out at Fred's as he fricks up. This shite you people push is hysterical.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:54 pm to jimmy the leg
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all of Orgeron's assistants are going to hang out at Fred's as he fricks up
Ok, your plan is for our head coach to be baby sat.
You are replying in a thread that clearly states that what we expect of O has only been delivered once in decades.
it isn't shite being pushed, it is just fact. The reality is hysterical too.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:57 pm to tlsu15
Has there ever been a coach that won a D1 natty and switched schools directly? Post 1970.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:59 pm to tlsu15
You are an idiot!
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:02 pm to tlsu15
quote:
This is a stat that should make every LSU fan uneasy
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:09 pm to beauxroux
quote:Saban was 21-13
Saban
quote:had Tulane in a bowl in his third year.
Mack Brown
and all four of the coaches you mentioned had never been FIRED, the whole point of the thread.
They all had their teams showing signs of improvement, or at least the records show improvements in the third year. O had gone winless in the SEC in his third year. A team that was Co West Champs two years before he took over.
Most of the coaches you mentioned had taken over programs that were in a huge funk.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:45 pm to JackDanielstiger
quote:
You are an idiot!
Got heeem!
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:59 pm to Nutriaitch
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he was, but different situation considering Nick left us on christmas after all the top Candidates had already found new gigs.
Yeah, and the LSU AD acted as if the same scenario was in play by extending an offer to an interim coach when NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY wanting him. Bottom line, LSU has done a shite job of hiring coaches nearly every time it has been conducted.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:50 pm to tlsu15
Wait......history dictateshows the future?
What makes me uneasy is the morons that post here are out there......somewhere
What makes me uneasy is the morons that post here are out there......somewhere
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:25 pm to TigerCliff777
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agree
please stop
we are trying to get the #1 QB in the country today
get with the program !!!!!
LSU has the #1 QB haul in the country and will do their best to screw that up by offering an Alabama hard commit and early enrollee that they haven't even spoken to and whom has shown ZERO INTEREST.
Get with the program?
How bout we roll with our elite and extremely loyal commit, Myles Brennan? Instead of crapping on him in the final hour.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:35 pm to tlsu15
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Of those 19 coaches, one won a national championship. One won a conference championship
So you're saying there's a chance
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:36 pm to tlsu15
The Binder breh. We gud.
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