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re: The truth on Nuss's injury

Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25274 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:46 pm to
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If you pull Nuss completely saying he’s injured, and VB ends up shitting the bed, then what?


Nuss has trouble throwing . He can’t tuck and run. If you don’t put MVB out there you are putting your team at a disadvantage because while he might not be as good as a passer as Nuss when healthy, you can’t tell me he isn’t close enough to a Nuss who can’t throw an accurate pass over 8 yards and is a statue back there. Use your damn brain.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
14969 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:48 pm to
It affects everything he does. All of it. Criminy. He needs to sit
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
14969 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:49 pm to
He is harming the team. This much is clear. Wow
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:54 pm to
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what does that mean? knowing the route trees for WR's, the nomenclature of the play calls?


Every offensive system has different terminology for the play calling, protection changes, audibles at the line of scrimmage & general plays altogether. The terminology he learned in the Mississippi St offense isn't going to be the same at LSU or any other school either.

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If you are talking about developing timing with starters, that is different


You say this nonchalantly like this isn't a huge factor as well.

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it is almost October and he's been here since January.


Burrow & Daniels were Heisman winners & greatest QBs in LSU history. It took Burrow the majority of 2018 to finally learn & play well in that system. It took Jayden one full season & a few games to feel comfortable & explode in the system yet you & others expect a true sophomore to do this in just a couple of months? Many of you have unrealistic expectations for learning & development of the most complex position on the football field.
Posted by nwallb9
Member since Oct 2024
313 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:59 pm to
Only thing I’ll say is fans generally are understanding when a qb is hurt that it changes expectations for a season. If BK came out the week of LA tech and said Nuss is gonna shut it down for the next month or so to heal up, fans would be disappointed but also see it was for the best because our schedule is so back loaded. You could have had the same record as we do now with Van Buren starting the last 4 games. Now it’s the worst of both worlds because not only did we not get the back up ready to go when he may be needed, but also Nuss seems worse off than he was the beginning of September.
Posted by BoudinChicot
Member since Sep 2021
2049 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:00 pm to
Why in the bloody frick was he in there against LA Tech and Southeastern if this was the case???
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19678 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:01 pm to
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It took Burrow the majority of 2018 to finally learn & play well in that system.
nope.

In 2018, Burrow was under Ensminger's pedestrian offensive scheme.

In 2019, Brady came in and Burrow and that other offensive talent was unleashed.

It didn't take Burrow a couple years to learn and improve. He just needed the right offensive scheme that knew how to take advantage of the massive talent on that roster.

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
14969 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:08 pm to
BK is not too bright.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22469 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:12 pm to
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In 2018, Burrow was under Ensminger's pedestrian offensive scheme.


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nope


Yep. It took Burrow the majority of 2018 to fully learn Ensminger's "pedestrian " scheme. The progression with his passing numbers as the season went along provide this as well as the total offensive output.

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In 2019, Brady came in 



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It didn't take Burrow a couple years to learn and improve. 


Ahh yes, the 5th senior grad transfer who only took online courses in 2019 & admitted to living in the film room & QB simulator to get a handle of Brady's offense. It's like you clowns really have a hard time deciphering the differences in each situation.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
16992 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:17 pm to
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It was an injury to his throwing hand & who honestly knows if that is completely healed.

He didn't seem to have any trouble vs Southeastern. Except for the deep miss where he just had to heave it because of pressure; his live reps looked very smooth.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4424 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:20 pm to
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He is harming the team. This much is clear. Wow


It's a no win situation. He sits and we lose at OM, you'd be on here calling him a quitter.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5315 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:20 pm to
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nope.

In 2018, Burrow was under Ensminger's pedestrian offensive scheme.

In 2019, Brady came in and Burrow and that other offensive talent was unleashed.

It didn't take Burrow a couple years to learn and improve. He just needed the right offensive scheme that knew how to take advantage of the massive talent on that roster.


Joe Burrow's last 4 games of 2018

Over 1100 yards passing 10 TDs/1INT 65% completion %

Burrow got it going the back end of 2018. Brady bring in some new concepts along with the development of Jamar Chase and Jefferson allowed Burrow to blow up in 2019.

Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15904 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Many of you have unrealistic expectations for learning & development of the most complex position on the football field.


It’s funny how other teams manage to start freshmen or first year transfers without the whole offense running into the goal posts but some how LSU can’t?

Would it be perfect with MVB no. It would however be doable it’s not quantum physics and the coaches get paid millions to find a way for it to work.
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17991 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:23 pm to
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Also, Ole Miss is known to have a really simplistic offensive scheme


As opposed to LSU’s super complicated and sophisticated run up the middle on 1st down for no gain, swing pass for 2 yds on 2nd down, 4 yd check down pass on 3rd down offense?
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted by ChiefCornerstone
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2022
481 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:24 pm to
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He has a torn oblique. Has had this since fall camp at least. Recovery time on this surgery is 3-4 months. They were hoping it would heal up enough to only require a shot and finish healing this week and next. I am not sure if that will be the case but it is obvious he hasnt been himself and this is why. This isnt a guess, it is on good authority or I wouldnt put it out there.

A few things. One, timing of the MRI is crucial to determine the level of injury. If this was off, then they have no clue the Grade. Two, you don’t just put a shot in it. It rarely works and if not done under ultrasound, then it rarely hits the spot. Finally, all too often, return to field of play is usually rushed by these athletes and their family. Re-injury is very high in those circumstances.
Posted by SwampdogDC
Member since Jan 2005
1859 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:32 pm to
agreed its tricky but should have put in MVB in second half and won the Ole Piss game.
Posted by ChuckUFarley
Up in heh!
Member since Jun 2022
463 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:51 pm to
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in this day and age, your backup shouldn't be so terrible that you can't have faith in him...or you have much bigger issues that just the QB spot.


I agree with this. We have had a pretty good back up for the past few years with Nuss. Before that, it has been pretty terrible.

I think missing on Underwood threw a big wrench in that equation. MVB cant be any worse and would at least give us a different element that other teams cant really prep for right away.

I also think that Nuss aggravated the injury more after the SELU game. Possibly on the first series last weekend. His form was much worse than the SELU game and it showed in the results
Posted by Horizon Imperial
Member since Sep 2019
418 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:51 pm to
No, you’ve got it wrong.

We throw on first down, usually resulting in no gain. Then we run the patented second and long, up-the-middle draw play that gets nothing, and then we punt after not being able to convert on third and long as our QB has ripped insides.

That is how it works. Or it actually doesn’t
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22469 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:24 pm to
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He didn't seem to have any trouble vs Southeastern


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trouble vs Southeastern


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Southeastern
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22469 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:26 pm to
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It’s funny how other teams manage to start freshmen or first year transfers without the whole offense running into the goal posts but some how LSU can’t?


Again, not EVERY situation is EQUAL.
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