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The problems, in order of likelihood of correction

Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10480 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:24 pm
The Unfixable:
- The DBs. They are what they are. They aren't going to ever be good enough to live up to the DBU standard. This makes it almost impossible to consistently play man coverage, which is extremely unfuriating... The good news? You don't play another WR as talented as FSU until the A&M game. They have 3 guys just as good as FSU.

The Likely Won't Get Fixed:
- The run game. John Emery will be a good addition, but he's not going to all of a sudden make our run game Uber productive. The biggest problem is the play calling and Denbrocks inability to implement creativity into the run game. We'll have success against inferior teams, we'll struggle against the good ones. This could be fixed if our OC decided to change up his scheme, but he won't.
- The vertical threat. At this point we have to just accept that we will never have a vertical component to this offense. It's unbelievable that this isn't a focus, but at this point it's just never going to happen unless JD gets hurt and Nuss gets in.

The Should Get Fixed:
- The pass rush. You are adding in Maason Smith, A dominant interior force. I also believe the coaches are smart enough to reinvent Perkins role and bring him back into the fold as a pass rusher. I expect our pass rush to be near the best in the nation going forward.
- The WRs. They are talented enough to be really good in this league. I expect them to get better, this seems like more of an anomaly than the rule (except for Lacy, who's drops are becoming consistent).

We can still be a really good team. Wouldnt shock me if we only dropped one more the rest of the regular season... Unfortunately the coaching staff's incompetence, the DBs, and JDs refusal to throw the ball downfield will prevent us from contending.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17933 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:25 pm to
The defense can be fixed. But just like you said, the offense won’t be fixed. It is what it is.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:26 pm to
JD is 100% on the coaches.
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
6320 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

unfuriating
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2285 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

The Unfixable: - The DBs. They are what they are. They aren't going to ever be good enough to live up to the DBU standard. This makes it almost impossible to consistently play man coverage, which is extremely unfuriating... The good news? You don't play another WR as talented as FSU until the A&M game. They have 3 guys just as good as FSU.

Figure out a way to get Harris on the field. He a tall talented cornerback. Probably more talented than anybody out there.
Posted by gabzooks
Member since Jul 2013
293 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:29 pm to
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The Likely Won't Get Fixed:
- The run game.

quote:

- The vertical threat.

The 2nd likely explains the 1st, for the most part
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10480 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:30 pm to
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Figure out a way to get Harris on the field. He a tall talented cornerback. Probably more talented than anybody out there.


They all say he is terrible in zone coverage. I'm 100% in agreement, get him on the field in man... Also, Laterrance Welch who dominated the spring game, didn't see the field.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12571 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:30 pm to
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But just like you said, the offense won’t be fixed. It is what it is.


Kelly has 2 big decisions to make.

1. Does he make the difficult decision to go w/ Nuss and bench JD to open the offense. JD is a great kid/ teammate but he’s limited and it’s hurting the offense. Saban had a similar decision with Hurts a few years ago.

He’s a 5yr guy, 2nd in this system and has not gotten any better. FSU was daring LSU to go deep! Every team will play the run and contain him scrambling. They might give up 1-2 big pass plays but aren’t scared of it bc he won’t do it consistently.

2. Scrap the project of Perkins playing in the middle. That completely eliminated your biggest defensive weapon. With a weak secondary, you need him coming off the edge to apply pressure. Add Mason smith back will give perk more 1 on 1 looks…I’ll take that.
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
7934 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:32 pm to
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JD is 100% on the coaches.
I don't think either of them are doing each other any favors to be quite honest. I feel like the staff thought they could develop JD into more of a downfield passer and pair that with his running ability. I think Nuss more naturally fits what Denbrock can do.
Posted by nickbear
Member since Nov 2014
195 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:35 pm to
I agree with your analysis but not so optimistic on the season outlook. In current CFB that favors offense, you have to have an explosive offense to hang with the big boys. Plus the defense flaw is unfixable. I expect two more losses in SEC play, may be three.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10480 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

I don't think either of them are doing each other any favors to be quite honest.


100%. He does not fit into what Denbrock wants to do, and Denbrock refuses to use his greatest skillets. He would be dominant in an offense like Oregon, and Denbrock would be better served with a guy like Travis.
Posted by DieSmilen
My Rubbermaid Desk
Member since Dec 2007
1727 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:39 pm to
I guess at what point are the WR/TE kind of just going through the motions. If JD truly doesn’t go through reads and they are the 3-4 option. Are they just moving in space with the clear knowledge that the ball will never ever come to me?
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76638 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:43 pm to
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I think Nuss more naturally fits what Denbrock can do.


Yeah, the hope is Nuss can out-arm talent the offensive scheme's blandness and almost total lack of creativity. You have to live with the likely higher turnover count with Nuss to get the higher ceiling.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23339 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

The Unfixable:
- The DBs. They are what they are. They aren't going to ever be good enough to live up to the DBU standard. This makes it almost impossible to consistently play man coverage, which is extremely unfuriating... The good news? You don't play another WR as talented as FSU until the A&M game. They have 3 guys just as good as FSU.


There was a pre-game analysis on the radio where the analyzer picked LSU but expressed great concerns about the defensive backs. What happened to DBU?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45095 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:46 pm to
The first thing that needs to be fixed is the effort, it just wasn't there and they quit in the second half. Fix that and the rest takes care of itself at least as much as it can within a season.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52400 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

I guess at what point are the WR/TE kind of just going through the motions. If JD truly doesn’t go through reads and they are the 3-4 option. Are they just moving in space with the clear knowledge that the ball will never ever come to me?

Then suddenly the ball comes at you and you drop it.
Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
4312 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 2:49 pm to
We should have played Nussmeier at some point last night. Just maybe he gives us a spark. He gets rid of the ball quickly and isn't afraid to throw the ball out of bounds.

Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2285 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

We should have played Nussmeier at some point last night. Just maybe he gives us a spark. He gets rid of the ball quickly and isn't afraid to throw the ball out of bounds.

Just shows a Les Miles mentality
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10186 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 3:01 pm to
A text I got from an FSU alum last night. He was at game and this was his response to congratulating their victory:

“Our offense is just loaded. I’m wishing lsu to run the table. Although I really don’t want us to play again. LSU came up just short on so many plays and that made the difference.”

That last part and this thread is the difference in this game. Drops, points left off board, etc…
Posted by John_V
SELA
Member since Oct 2018
1746 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 3:13 pm to
Without a halftime I'm not sure FSU comes out of there with the W and that's with us leaving a minimum of 6pts on the field. I never thought I'd see 100m worth of coaches get out schemed after a halftime break
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