re: The Grove Collective

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Can’t just blink it away.

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And me caring will accomplish what?

Or me not caring will harm what?

Folks are mixing up NIL strategy and ability.

LSU has the #3 recruiting class in the country for 2024 per on3 and currently has the #1 class in the country for 2025. Clearly, they are doing something to attract talent to Baton Rouge.

BK said he wants to build his program through high school prospects. Ole Miss wants to go all in when the stars align with a 4th year starting qb. We'll see what wins out.

Ole Miss had spots to fill. LSU does not. Ole Miss does not have more money than LSU in collective. They just spending it all now. They will be a one and done and better win it all next year.

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this is a one year thing for them. They are putting all of their money into a run next year.

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I agree. I think they look at their reaources and know they can’t compete every year. Hell we can’t compete every year with the likes of Texas and south Florida money. I think they have to pick a window every 5-10 years and push all the chips in. This year, with a senior qb and good supporting cast, is that year.

I suppose a lot will depend on how Ole Miss performs this year. If they go 9-3 or 8-4 and miss the playoff, a lot of that money will dry up, especially given the relatively manageable schedule they have. With the influx of the portal players and their schedule, their supporters are expecting a season for the ages.

If they flop, or even if they succeed, they will just have to turn right around and pony up the very next year and hope, with fingers crossed, that they hit on every single transfer, which is unlikely.

If they make the Playoff, Kiffin will bolt if he gets an offer to go somewhere else where he actually has an advantage in recruiting high school players.

Listen, Lane himself has lamented buying transfer players and trying to build a team with a bunch of mercenaries, but he's going to use what's at his disposal and hope it hits big one year, and then he's gone to a better program. It worked for DeBoer at Washington, and he was gone to a better situation in a week. Lane is trying to follow that path.

There's not enough history to know if the NIL/transfer portal twins can win big and be sustained, but the movement of coaches who have profited from it suggests that they don't subscribe to the theory that it can be maintained.

Michigan State was the first to turn around a program through the portal when they brought in 15 transfers, had a great season, and got their coach a massive contract. The next season, they crashed and burned.

Will Kiffin and Ole Miss be different? Will Lane provide college football with an entirely different way to build and sustain championship programs? Unlikely, but we'll see.

It’s still Ole Miss…Ole Piss…the Land Sharks and Lane Kiffin will find a way to blow it.

I don’t think we do a good job of marketing our collective. Doesn’t seem like we have a strategic marketing strategy/vision there?

I would have signed up months ago had I gotten an email asking me to give some monthly money. Unless it went to junk, I haven’t gotten a single email or call. I can’t give to something I’m unaware exists.

I had never seen anything about our collective until someone texted me the baseball championship commemorative bat a few months back. And even that didn’t prompt any monthly giving. And I only found out a couple weeks ago that we have tiers for monthly giving for the collective.

Come up with some cool strategic marketing and I have no doubt LSU’s collective would kill it.

It takes money to make money iMo… they need to invest some marketing $$$ in our collective, LSU fans will pony up if it’s in our face and made urgent

But now that you are aware that LSU has a collective with different levels of giving, which level did you join?

Neck

And the website sucks.

This thread isn’t gonna make people aware tho