re: The Grass is Not Always Greener

All this thread points out is that good coaches are not a dime a dozen. It would be cool if they were.

I fail to see what that has to do with the decision on keeping a coach. If one isn't worth keeping, you at least try.

Also, the premise of the OP is false. You don't really need to hire a storied coach. Every storied coach had a place he made his first big time mark. If you were to list the hindsight best hires of the last 5 years, few of those were consider huge coups when they were hired.

Ok you have a valid point. So how long do we give this new coach? Les won the sec west in his first season, if the new coach doesnt, do we move on?

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Ok you have a valid point. So how long do we give this new coach? Les won the sec west in his first season, if the new coach doesnt, do we move on?

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Setting benchmarks is silly in EITHER direction.

That's how teams hold on to coaches too long when they happen to wins something and yes, it's why some coaches get the hook too soon although let's be honest, how many coaches who have gotten a quick hook have ended up showing that hook to be mistaken?

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Sec champions, bcs cahmpions.

only UF, Bama, Auburn and Tennesse can claim that. So we are at least better than 9 other sec programs.

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We're back to the earlier point now, that was 7 years ago.

Les is not the same as he was 7 years ago. We are threatening to be a dumpster fire the equivalent of Florida if things don't change RIGHT NOW.

Again all great points. I'm just sayin you can't be afraid of the unknown and not make a change because of it

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No matter who we hire, we are not winning a championship every season. Which seems to me is what people consider success.

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Considering that's how Alabama is, that's what we have to ask for.

Asking for anything less means settling for losing to them year in year out like the past 4 years we've already done.

Nick saban has been the head coach at alabama for almost 7 years now. He has 3 bcs titles and 2 sec championships. Maybe i suck at math, but 3 and 2 are < 7.

I think people at LSU already knew about Pelini?? Don't you? No one would hire his arse. His defense was about equal to what the frick Chavis runs now. But you people keep missing the damn point! People wanna see LSU win with the talent they always keep. And when I say win I don't mean the winning percentage bullshite you posi's always like to throw out. Win as in challenge for SEC titles and NC's every season. LSU is that type of program now and has been for awhile. Yeah, they lose a lot of talent every year, but they reload with great talent every year, also. So, despite young players comin in, they are talented enough to be in contention every season. This season is a perfect example. They could have been in the hunt with the playoffs. All they had to do was take care of Bama. Instead they blow another game to these people. And it is not the talent or youth of the talent, but the inept coaching every damn time.

The reason Saban wins so damn much is because he demands excellence from his players and hold them accountable for their mistakes. They are afraid to screw up around him. Miles, is a players coach, yes, but the players don't fear him like that. He's buddy buddy with them so they are lackadaiscal. Miles has been at LSU 10 years. Time for a change! He won't win another NC. It will always be the same shite every season.

First of all, I think jones has improved Ut greatly and they will be hugely better next year with more experienced and talented wrs, edge sieve players and dobbs at qb.

Second, Les will retire one day if they don't fire him and we'd be in the same boat anyway. It's always a crap shoot. shite, I'd have thought muschamp would be good at Florida and was very concerned about him being there as an opponent. But your comments ignore the fact that FSU lobbied to put Bowden out to pasture and they got a NC as a result. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.

But I've come to expect that no matter how many recruits LSU gets, they'll always blow at least a couple of games, and not always against top opponents. It's really taken a lot of the enthusiasm out of my enjoyment of LSU football.

We fired and rehired multiple times since Archer and it ended up working in the long run, but there's also no guarantee that it would take ten years to get a good coach. But, at least I'd have hope for success instead of expectations of mediocrity.

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It's best to make a move before we stop getting recruits

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I'm sure recruits look at 7 LSU offensive rookies from one draft class starting on Sundays and think "nah, their offense is boring, I'm going to ...."