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re: The facts are that Jayden Daniels...
Posted on 11/29/22 at 5:48 pm to AllenTXTiger
Posted on 11/29/22 at 5:48 pm to AllenTXTiger
I'm a big JD fan thankful for the 9 - 3 season.
If he leaves he projects as a late Round NFL Draft pick ; a clip board holder. Still too inconsistent in the passing game. 39 game starter old habits hard to break.
If he leaves he projects as a late Round NFL Draft pick ; a clip board holder. Still too inconsistent in the passing game. 39 game starter old habits hard to break.
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 5:50 pm to AllenTXTiger
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feared him. SEC coaches
LOL
Posted on 11/29/22 at 8:27 pm to AllenTXTiger
6, 7, 8 are utter bullshite fantasy that you pulled out of your arse after your boyfriend pulled the anal beads out like a pull start mower.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 8:38 pm to AllenTXTiger
11. Has a fear of throwing the ball. Nit good for a QB.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 8:40 pm to SCREWDAT
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He absolutely WILL NOT be an elite QB in the NFL. He can't read defenses well, struggles mightly to go through his progressions and refuses to push the ball downfield to the point it is maddening.If it wasn't for his running ability, he'd be barely serviceable in the Sunbelt or Southland conferences.
I like JD and hope this is wrong but right now it seems right based on the present. And how much more time does he need to evolve finally? I truly hope he’s not at the point of maximum improvement/diminishing returns.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:17 pm to AllenTXTiger
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6. Is respected and feared him. SEC coaches
Wow man I guess JD should be the starter next year and we should all worship him because he’s respected and feared by SEC coaches - I guess we can just tell the other QB’s on the roster to go home.
This is one of the worst threads I’ve ever read on this website. SEC coaches have figured out how to defend JD - it turns out it’s not that hard to defend someone who isn’t a threat to throw the ball - just look at Arkansas and A&M.
Yes he put up similar numbers to Burrow because it was Burrow’s first year starting yet Daniels has over 4 seasons and 40 games under his belt. This comparison is not one that favors Daniels by any means. Also, Max threw for 12 more TD’s last year than JD has this year and Max had a weaker o-line, weaker receivers, and a very bad OC
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:24 pm to AllenTXTiger
11. He bas ZERO feel of anticipation and won’t throw into coverage which negates about 3-4 of your points.
12. Steven Ensminger isn’t calling plays where there is zero RPO. Burrow 2018.
13. He won’t start if he stays.
12. Steven Ensminger isn’t calling plays where there is zero RPO. Burrow 2018.
13. He won’t start if he stays.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 11:50 pm to AllenTXTiger
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2. Learned a new team and offensive system on the fly in the toughest division in the toughest league in college football.
He participated in spring practice. Everyone was learning new system. Experience probably mattered more.
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5. Hasn't taken a redshirt which is a compliment to his abilities and football IQ. He is a true junior.
A Covid junior isn’t he?
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Has similar number to Joseph Burrow
Stop
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Had decided to go to aTm instead of LSU, they are most likely undefeated and playing in our place this weekend.
Besides not fitting in with Jimbo’s scheme this didn’t really play out during A&M game…
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9. Is not a WR or any other position, he is and will be a next level QB, like it or not. NFL scouts see him as such.
What do you think scouts grade as next level ability for the NFL? Arm or legs?
Usually NFL QBs with such a weak arm have 10 or more years of experience dissecting NFL defenses before arm gets as weak from age and injuries. His reads, recognition, and need to get comfortable don’t relay that in his 4th season he has mastered making college reads quickly yet much less next level ones.
If Bruce Lee can do this from an inch away Daniels may be able to add some strength to his throws and make more passes across the field, but right he is limited by his arm and his reads.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:14 am to AllenTXTiger
quote:He has a full spring, summer and fall camp with these guys.
2. Learned a new team and offensive system on the fly in the toughest division in the toughest league in college football.
quote:He's a senior and your argument that a redshirt was a benefit is retarded. He has a full extra year of game experience.
5. Hasn't taken a redshirt which is a compliment to his abilities and football IQ. He is a true junior.
quote:I'm not sure you know what the word "fact" means
6. Is respected and feared him. SEC coaches
quote:Yeah you have no clue what the word facts mean. You think a 5-7 team that lost to App State would be undefeated if they got Jayden Daniels instead? Yeah last week really showcased that.
8. Had decided to go to aTm instead of LSU, they are most likely undefeated and playing in our place this weekend.
quote:Lol you think Jayden Daniels is a NFL QB? Damn son, you eat up with it
9. Is not a WR or any other position, he is and will be a next level QB, like it or not. NFL scouts see him as such.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:44 am to AllenTXTiger
I don't see him at next level playing qb. He is very athletic. Good speed. I could see him being a good reciever if he can catch the ball. Will he be back next year? Idk. Could he improve his stock? Yes. This offense needs a big time play maker in a reciever. Nabers put up good numbers. What if daniels had a odell and jarvis or a jamar and jefferson.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 1:03 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:58 am to BayouCowboy
Mason Taylor running straight up the field on the right side of the field and no defensive back with 15-20 yards and JD5 looks at him and did not throw the ball. If he throws it it is a TD.
His problem is he hold the ball too long and once he decides to run he never looks to throw it after that.
This is his 4th year as a starter, therefore he is what he is at this point.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:55 am to AllenTXTiger
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he is and will be a next level QB, like it or not. NFL scouts see him as such.
What NFL scouts are you talking about? Do you even watch professional football? JD is not an NFL QB. Not saying that he won’t be if he gets another year under his belt at LSU but he is not NFL ready.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 5:59 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:18 am to SloaneRanger
Mascona said JD is currently rated the #6 QB if he went in the draft so I would say the scouts do think he has the tools.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:45 am to AllenTXTiger
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6. Is respected and feared him. SEC coaches
7. Has similar number to Joseph Burrow and no one has been better since Joe Burrow. Granted Max Johnson was serviceable at best, however he wouldn't have gotten LSU this far.
8. Had decided to go to aTm instead of LSU, they are most likely undefeated and playing in our place this weekend.
9. Is not a WR or any other position, he is and will be a next level QB, like it or not. NFL scouts see him as such.
10. Decides to come back and the offensive play improves and better compliments his abilities and the surrounding cast strengths, he is in the Hiesman discussion next year without question
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:48 am to jwp475
He’s such an awful QB.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:52 am to talmaniandevil_25
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I don’t know that he’s regressed as much as teams have figured out how to beat him. Most teams have been dropping 7 or 8 in coverage with a spy. He’s not a good enough passing QB right now to beat that defensive alignment.
Yep
He will progress this offseason as well
Keep in mind his best weapon at wideout this year has been unreliable at times as well. Talking about Boutte
He needs to work on his downfield vision and continue to work on his qb/wr relationship with Malik
LSU is gonna be really good next year
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:52 am to JohnDeer
Truth be told Max played much better than Daniels.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:04 am to cas4t
Yes. 4 or 5 more off seasons and he should be ready to read a defense and throw accurately.
Hahahahahaaaaa
Hahahahahaaaaa
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:04 am to jwp475
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Mason Taylor running straight up the field on the right side of the field and no defensive back with 15-20 yards and JD5 looks at him and did not throw the ball. If he throws it it is a TD.
His problem is he hold the ball too long and once he decides to run he never looks to throw it after that.
This is his 4th year as a starter, therefore he is what he is at this point.
There was also a throw to Boutte down the sideline that was late and underthrown. KB got past the CB and the safety was late to rotate. A decent throw and KB has a pretty easy, long TD. Instead he had to stop and wait to catch the ball and got no YAC.
Those plays happen even with elite QBs, but the problem is this is the norm. WRs know this and I'm sure they are frustrated. Nabers is an elite runner after the catch, but despite being our top WR this season, he's had few opportunities to make catches in stride and show his breakaway ability.
I'm not giving up on JD because he can be a dynamic player, but I will be curious to see how the spring QB competition shakes out. If JD can improve his timing and trust with his WRs he can be a top QB with his DT ability. But, if Howard comes in and shows he can stretch the field and get the ball to playmakers, Kelly is going to have a real difficult decision to make.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 8:16 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:10 am to AllenTXTiger
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he is and will be a next level QB,
He is a by all indications a good kid and a competitor, but unless he makes a major leap, there's nothing he's shown so far to be a QB in the NFL.
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