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The difference between a Heisman favorite, (Arch) and a highly criticized QB, (Mateer)

Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:29 am
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:29 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:41 am to
Just watch the games man. Arch hasn’t been great by any means, but mateer has been awful.

Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Heisman favorite, (Arch)
Posted by TheRouxGuru
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:43 am to
I’m not sure you’re understanding the point of this thread
Posted by Big4SALTbro
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:43 am to
One is game managing and relying on the defense.

The other doesn’t have that or a last name
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:43 am to
How many of mateers TDs were against St Amant High School?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:45 am to
quote:

One is game managing and relying on the defense.

The other doesn’t have that or a last name


Oklahoma’s defense is arguably better than Texas’

The difference is arch is actually managing the game (and his receivers are dropping balls that get picked) and mateer is losing games for his team. To be fair, his run game is worse than Texas, but he’s still been awful.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:47 am to
Now include fumbles.
Posted by xenythx
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:50 am to
Arch is merely an ok QB that seems to be the weak link of an other stacked/championship-caliber team.

Mateer is actively hurting his team with his ineffectiveness.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 11:51 am to
I'm not justifying anything but Mateer does have two fumbles which makes him have double the amount of turnovers as Arch.

And he is in charge of an offense that objectively looks like arse.
Posted by Rainier Fog
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 2:22 pm to
Arch going for his 2nd straight Heisman with numbers worse than Peyton and Eli
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 2:22 pm to
Maserati Arch

He actually reminds me a ton of JJ McCarthy. He’s along for the ride against actual good teams.
This post was edited on 9/29/26 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

He actually reminds me a ton of JJ McCarthy. He’s along for the ride against actual good teams.


quote:

UnluckyTiger


Is JD5 still a top 5 qb?
Posted by Bama Bird
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 2:39 pm to
I think most would admit Fredo isn't a legit Heisman contender now. Never was, but no one's pretending otherwise anymore
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 2:40 pm to
Most important stat: His team is ranked #1 currently

He also has 8th best odds currently at +3000
This post was edited on 9/29/26 at 2:43 pm
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/29/26 at 2:53 pm to
Ever had a Big Arch burger? Didn't think so. I rest my case, Your Honor.
This post was edited on 9/29/26 at 3:10 pm
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