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re: The Coach O hate...

Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:44 pm to
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who would you have hired off of that staff to be the interim head coach




It's funny how the wheels fell off once Aranda left.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:47 pm to
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The argument is how Ed put himself in position to steal the job. He wasn’t qualified for it but ran one hell of a campaign that fooled dimwitted fans and a moron AD

I didn't think he was qualified either, but I don't know who he stole the job from? We had other candidates that passed on the job. The team obviously liked him and Alleva just settled. He did do a good job taking over in 2016 though and our offense instantly improved, so I guess he at least had that to hang his hat on.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68584 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:54 pm to
I usually agree with your takes but not this one.

O took over a program that was no longer competing with Bama and was as vanilla as Iowa on offense. He immediately turned around LSU’s season after the abysmal start in 2017.

2018 he brought in Burrow, opened up the offense and got us to the Fiesta Bowl.

2019 found Joe Brady and built the single greatest season in college football history.

We can put O on blast for how he left the program but there’s no doubt he built it up from the shite Les left him too.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 7:25 am
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
2088 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:58 pm to
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frick him and frick you too.


Happy to provide your 100th downvote, Project.
Have a good one!
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78704 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:26 pm to
We had no other candidates besides Tom Herman. It was literally Herman or Ed. Alleva at least pursued Herman first, good job there Joe.

But once Herman said no, it was Ed and only Ed. And that was in large part to the PR campaign orchestrated by Ed, Jordy Culotta, and Ponamsky.

Let’s lay it out there:
-Culotta and Ponamsky started having Ed on their show, stumping for him to be hired as DL coach because they knew Les was in hot water
-Les gets fired and Ed is made interim, which in of itself is fine, whatever
-Culotta and Ponamsky give PR advice- open practice, bring back former players, etc. shite that doesn’t matter to wins, but looks good
-Retards like Ruffin Rodrigue and Chris Truax go on 104.5 weekly to gush about Ed welcoming them back
-Ponamsky is hired as Ed’s minister of propaganda and Culotta suddenly is flush with scoop for his shitty radio show

It was obvious in real time and shameful. Ed has enough sense to retain Aranda, who then brings in Bill Busch, who is friends with Jimmy Burrow and we land Joe. He gets Joe Brady, god knows how and the rest of history. Ed gets credit for 1 thing only- staying out of the way. Because once everyone left, he had no answers, he didn’t build anything, he couldn’t sustain anything and I suspect he felt slighted by the praise Aranda got and that’s why he always talked about running a 4-3 and hired that loser Pelini.

In short, frick em
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66745 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:29 pm to
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Yeah like Kelly is going to admit he fricked up... FOH

Like when he fired his initial defensive hires and brought Raymond and Baker back.

And then said he made a mistake?
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:29 pm to
When more than half your team is made up of a certain race, the very least you can do is show up for them. It’s not bending the knee or kissing their arse as much as being in lockstep with your players. I disagreed with all of the riots and the jackasses that posted a black square, but he was in charge and he was the one who promised their parents he’d take care of their kids. Then he had to sit there and be a cuck to Ryan Clark.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14526 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:39 pm to
All you Luzianner Lifer Orgeron Sycophants are nauseating little creatures.

Shrimpy was a great Cheerleader in 2019, running up and down the sidelines clapping his hands and staying out of the way while Brady, Burrow and Aranda were doing their thing........... (And Bill Busch, the Safeties coach, was responsible for getting Burrow out of Ohio)
Posted by SuperFlyTiger
Member since Jun 2011
316 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:40 pm to
ryan clark should never be allowed on campus. And yes I'm so petty I made sure his name wasn't in caps. Worst LSU tv personality EVER.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:46 pm to
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Worst LSU tv personality EVER.

He really should be thanking the 2019 team too. He rode that coattail from November to CFP championship to make sure he got his tv time every week and then used his race to make sure he kept his job.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32986 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:56 pm to
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I don't understand all the hate at Coach O. He gave us 2019. All of you young Ranters don't remember the late 80's and 90's. If in 1992, you tell me we could have what many consider THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME, and win a Natty, but the next 5 years are a "rebuild", I take it!! I lived through a 2 & 9 season. The pick 6 game at Auburn. Through Denardo trying to bring the magic back. Then losing Josh Booty to the freaking Florida Marlins. Most of this through Jim Hawthorne messing up the calls on the radio and leaving me depressed AF with sayings like "He's WIDE OPEN, no Tiger close to him...gain of 2". I LIVED it!!


I lived all of that too. In fact, I lived it in TGBFTL, so when Florida beat our fricking brains out 58-3 in Tiger Stadium, I got to watch every second with around 100 fans by the time the game ended. I got to watch Curley’s last game (an ironic win) on a 40 degree rainy day in Little Rock. Trust me- I get all of that.

But for one, O didn’t do anything new or break any ground. Saban did all of the hard work and Miles kept it going for a lot longer than O could have. I will always give credit to O for putting together a good staff in 2018 and 19 and listening to them. But that said, O brought whatever hate he gets on himself. If he wanted to check out and go party, he could have stepped down on top and we could have had our pick of coaches to take on the challenge of keeping us rolling.

But O didn’t do that. He tried to coast while keeping the job, after taking a big raise, and got his arse handed to him. He had the stage set to be a hero after 2019 and he fricked it up in a million different ways. He doesn’t deserve any sympathy for the criticism he absolutely deserves.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 8:03 am
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32986 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 11:13 pm to
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We'll find out this season, won't we.


When this OL will gel is a legitimate question mark, but the talent level on the OL right now isn’t. The 20 and 21 OLs couldn’t hold a fricking candle to this group, especially in terms of quality depth.

O did a pretty good job recruiting DL until his last season, but he let the OL fall off a fricking cliff. We literally had 3 SEC quality players on the entire roster before the portal and recruiting for 2022. Martinez was just BARELY SEC level and had to transfer to a bad State team to start.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
6589 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 11:20 pm to
Ed is awesome.

He did quit though.

I’ll always support Ed.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32986 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 11:21 pm to
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There should be more animosity towards Miles than coach O. Miles wasted talent because he was stubborn.


I have a healthier dislike of Miles than many LSU fans due to the way his tenure ended. However, he didn’t leave the program in anything remotely close to the shape O did. And that was a very slow 5 year gradual decline.

O took the wheels off of a Championship machine and left it smoking in a ditch with its first losing season in over 20 years in just 2 seasons. It’s really impressive when you think about it.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20136 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 11:25 pm to
I have never been more proud of an LSU HC in a moment in time than O in his post-championship interview with SVP. But from that point forward, he could not have self-destructed any faster had he been trying to. He demonstrated for all the world to see that he was a lazy, low-character, immature individual.

Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32986 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 11:27 pm to
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Covid was hard on everyone but we still blame Coach O.


COVID didn’t hire Linehan and Pelini to replace Brady and Aranda. COVID didn’t replace a defense that was working with one that Mike Leach beat senseless with a glorified HS team in Tiger Stadium. frick all of this horseshite.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27966 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 6:16 am to
Love O. I wish him the best.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20735 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 6:29 am to
I don't think anybody really hates Orgeron. I think people are really disappointed that he checked out after 2019. Mid life crisis, complacency, marital problems, whatever, it doesn't really matter. He was disengaged and the program was in horrible shape when he was fired and that is all on him. The roster was a mess, the Pellini hire was a disaster, etc.

Everybody's grateful for 2019 and pulling us out of the Miles malaise, but Orgeron doesn't have anyone to blame but himself for what happened. But I don't think anybody really hates Ed Orgeron.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 6:46 am to
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O doesn't get credit because he wasn't the one running things. He was a figurehead. When the people actually calling the shots left, the program imploded.


There is not a more clear example of this scenario than Ogre, and yet some people are so willfully blind it's insane.

I mean the rantards who irrationally supported Les in real time are one thing, but the ones who still, in hindsight, irrationally support O are mind-numbing.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 6:47 am
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12343 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 6:49 am to
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It's funny how the wheels fell off once Aranda left.


Aranda is a great guy, but he hasn’t done great at Baylor. An Aranda hire means no 2019 Championship.
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