re: Tearing down Miles' legacy requires tearing down LSU's legacy

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A huge problem just kept churning out successful seasons, right?

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yeah I mean 2012-2016 are arguably Miles most talented teams and we've won an average of 9 games a season since 1/9/12.

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Even I agree with this, and I've been as outspoken a Miles supporter as the board has had. A change was definitely in order and as much as I loved the guy, I'm excited about a new direction for the program

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Where is SFP to start a mega thread on the gallingly self-serving idea that sunshine pumpers were right in defending Miles all these years AND right in finally being ready to move now that we have reached rock bottom.

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Where is SFP to start a mega thread on the gallingly self-serving idea that sunshine pumpers were right in defending Miles all these years AND right in finally being ready to move now that we have reached rock bottom.

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this is retarded

people are not allowed to change or make decisions based off current situations?

if you ever defended Miles, you have to defend Miles to the end? is that it?

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if you ever defended Miles, you have to defend Miles to the end? is that it?

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No. You just can't claim to have been correct at every turn, using this assumed narrative that Les was a great coach who somehow turned into a clueless bum that had to be fired 4 games into a season.

And it's not there was NO defense of Miles during his tenure. I never thought he was a great coach and always thought it would end this way (just amazed it took this long given his obvious deficiencies), but I wasn't calling for his firing, because you can't fire a guy that wins that many games.

It would be better now to just move on from this shite, as what does it really matter now that Miles' ineptitude cost us a national championship in 2006 and would have in 2007 if it was left up to him?
But I'm not so fed up with the discussion that I'll let a self-proclaimed "biggest Miles defender on the board" (or whatever exact words he used) like TM talk that noise without retort.

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using this assumed narrative that Les was a great coach who somehow turned into a clueless bum that had to be fired 4 games into a season.

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I don't think anyone that has defended Miles over the years is using this narrative

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yesterday when I got in my truck for the drive home, some idiot was on Moscona's show bitching and raving about Miles. He felt the need to bring up that Miles was the only coach to win a championship with two losses, with the implication being that it was undeserved. Well, if it was undeserved for Miles, it was undeserved for LSU.

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That caller was a complete tool and,like many here, was trying to act like nothing good happened in 12 years. frickig idiot. The guy was just a bitter prick who probably doesn't know anything about LSU past an occasional 6 pm news.

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I have heard a number of idiots that want to tear down every success Miles brought to LSU

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I don't give him credit for anything until after his 3rd season. In your 4th-5th season is when a program becomes yours.

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I know many fans grew tired of Miles, but some have taken it farther. I have heard a number of idiots that want to tear down every success Miles brought to LSU.

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SERIOUSLY!!
SERIOUSLY!!
SERIOUSLY!!

HOLD UP>>> ITS ALL ABOUT THE CONTRACT

LSU = EMPLOYER
MILES = EMPLOYEE

$4.5 Million per year to win SEC games, not non conference games.

2012 = 6-2 SEC GAMES
2013 = 5-3 SEC GAMES
2014 = 4/4 SEC GAMES
2015 = 5/3 SEC GAMES

See the pattern. And now Miles went 0-1 SEC Games with the first SEC game of the year. Do you expect that to be the only SEC Loss with 2 Losses already and 1 SEC Loss.?????????????????

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He didn't tear down anything. He still brought LSU one of only 3 national championships in program history. He still provided the longest period of sustained success in program history

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This. It's amazing how Louisiana folks will fail to give credit to the coach that sustained the most successful period in the school's history. People across the country tend to trash La. residents as classless rednecks, and on some occasions that reputation is well earned. I loved Les Miles as LSU's representative on and off the field. All eras come to an end, and it's a shame the end of Miles' tenure turned into the clusterfrick that ensued between the end of last season and these first few games (in regards to the way the school officials handled it). LSU has not been a historical blue blood program. Saban put us back on the map, but his tenure was too short to make LSU a slam dunk program. Miles is the one who made us one.

bullshite. Let it go, Miles is gone and not coming back. Remember his legacy however you like. Here is a diagram to help Miles apologist:

LSU Football > Miles