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re: SQ: If Etling is that good - wouldn't the coaches have seen it in practice?
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:06 am to TigerFan244
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:06 am to TigerFan244
I'm sure they saw 6 of 14 in practice. 
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Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:22 am to BayouBengals18
There's also the difference that you practice against a defense you see EVERY DAY.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:58 am to TigerFan244
I can only imagine this has been covered, but seeing as how this thread is way too long to go through, I'll just add my 2 cents.
All last season, DE was the mimic QB during practice. I'm sure he was trying to learn our offense the entire time, but at the same time he was trying to mimic other team's QBs and offensive scheme. So yea, it's incredibly difficult to show potential in that kind of a scenario.
Fast forward to this off season. It's definitely not improbable that DE finally hit a stride in practice within the past month or so after finally being allowed to play as himself in the offensive scheme he's been studying for the past year and a half.
I also believe seniority and stubbornness plays a huge part in Miles' decision. I'm only assuming he was gung-ho on his own recruit carrying the team into the promise land, and he believed BH's extended time learning the offense trumped whatever potential DE could show in practice.
At the end of the day, if Tom Brady was reincarnated into an eligible LSU QB transfer, BH still would have gotten the start.
All last season, DE was the mimic QB during practice. I'm sure he was trying to learn our offense the entire time, but at the same time he was trying to mimic other team's QBs and offensive scheme. So yea, it's incredibly difficult to show potential in that kind of a scenario.
Fast forward to this off season. It's definitely not improbable that DE finally hit a stride in practice within the past month or so after finally being allowed to play as himself in the offensive scheme he's been studying for the past year and a half.
I also believe seniority and stubbornness plays a huge part in Miles' decision. I'm only assuming he was gung-ho on his own recruit carrying the team into the promise land, and he believed BH's extended time learning the offense trumped whatever potential DE could show in practice.
At the end of the day, if Tom Brady was reincarnated into an eligible LSU QB transfer, BH still would have gotten the start.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 10:18 am to TigerFan244
Are we still talking about the coaching staff that believes we can still run the ball against good competition when they have 8 or 9 men in the box?
The coaching staff that believes a hat on a hat and playing in a phone booth gives us the best chance to beat good teams?
The coaching staff that doesn't give Leonard Fournette a chance by spreading out the opposing defense?
The coaching staff that has missed on quarterback after quarterback since Jimbo left?
The head coach that feels that the shitshow that is Bradley Dale Peveto as special teams coach will get things corrected and have the right amount of people on the field for special teams or not kick the ball out of bounds?
Why would you trust this coach's judgement? I sure as hell don't.
The coaching staff that believes a hat on a hat and playing in a phone booth gives us the best chance to beat good teams?
The coaching staff that doesn't give Leonard Fournette a chance by spreading out the opposing defense?
The coaching staff that has missed on quarterback after quarterback since Jimbo left?
The head coach that feels that the shitshow that is Bradley Dale Peveto as special teams coach will get things corrected and have the right amount of people on the field for special teams or not kick the ball out of bounds?
Why would you trust this coach's judgement? I sure as hell don't.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 10:24 am to TigerFan244
i think the issue is Harris looked so good in practice he got the nod. Problem is he falls short live action
Posted on 9/16/16 at 10:30 am to TigerFan244
I would figure Etling to be pretty steady and close to the same in practice and games, where with Harris' skill set he could be lights out in practice but then freeze up when live action happens. You never quite know how people are going to react when the pressure is really on. Some thrive and most shrink away.
There have been numerous QB's that have NFL type skill, but can't perform in the games. Then you have guys like Montana and Brady that appear to have no business being a NFL QB, yet are two of the best of all time.
There have been numerous QB's that have NFL type skill, but can't perform in the games. Then you have guys like Montana and Brady that appear to have no business being a NFL QB, yet are two of the best of all time.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 10:51 am to TigerFan244
"Game management" is not something easily determined at a structured practice where your QB is protected from hits. The speed and flow of a real game just cannot be matched at a practice, so the game management factor cannot be evaluated until the QB is thrown into the fire. (This may not be correct . . . but it is the ray of hope that I am holding onto to make me feel better about Etling turning things around)!!!
Posted on 9/16/16 at 10:56 am to Geauxstbuster
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I also believe seniority and stubbornness plays a huge part in Miles' decision. I'm only assuming he was gung-ho on his own recruit carrying the team into the promise land, and he believed BH's extended time learning the offense trumped whatever potential DE could show in practice.
At the end of the day, if Tom Brady was reincarnated into an eligible LSU QB transfer, BH still would have gotten the start.
BH played and started as a true freshman in like his 3rd game at LSU. At no individual position has Miles shown stubbornness nor a preference for seniority. Young guys have played for LSU and will continue to do so, even at the QB position.
I said this on the first page of the thread: Harris and Etling likely lacked any real separation so Miles went with the incumbent - a decision 100% of coaches in this country would make if there is no clearly superior player at that point.
In limited meaningful action it appears Etling is better than Harris at this point, so Etling will start this week.
All of this conspiracy theory shite about Miles playing favorites and Miles wanting to go with Harris no matter what is a load of horse shite. The moment Etling performed better within the offense he earned a start from Miles and company. It really isn't that complicated.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:17 am to TigerFan244
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If Etling is that good - wouldn't the coaches have seen it in practice?
Tom Brady says hi.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:21 am to slackster
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BH played and started as a true freshman in like his 3rd game at LSU. At no individual position has Miles shown stubbornness nor a preference for seniority. Young guys have played for LSU and will continue to do so, even at the QB position.
You're right. Harris started over Jennings one game as a freshman because Jennings was shiteing the bed. Which would, for me, present the same question...
"Wouldn't the coaches have seen it in practice?"
To which I would answer again, stubbornness and seniority.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:28 am to Geauxstbuster
quote:
"Wouldn't the coaches have seen it in practice?"
To which I would answer again, stubbornness and seniority.
Meh, I think you have to give some consideration to how close these things can be, particularly when were trying to decide who is more average than the alternative.
LSU probably runs one of the more simplistic, yet more difficult to execute passing schemes in the country. It is plausible that no one looks great in practice and the returning starter is the default until proven otherwise. I'll gladly fault Miles for the offense, but the individual decision is entirely understandable.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:13 pm to slackster
I seriously do not think Simple Jack would know a quarterback if Johnny Unitas bit him in the arse.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:48 pm to TigerFan244
Tim Tebow wasn't a good practice player either.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:55 pm to TigerFan244
A few reasons why Brandon Harris was chosen...
1 - He did better in practice but is terrible in live game...lack of mental development in live game.
2 - Brandon was under the system longer.
1 - He did better in practice but is terrible in live game...lack of mental development in live game.
2 - Brandon was under the system longer.
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