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Posted on 9/15/16 at 3:53 pm to Rougarou13
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They had some offseason practice film floating around a while back. Etling looked just as good If not better than Harris.
I read a quote from Jamal Adams yesterday and he said the difference in 1st team snaps for Harris and Etling thru the preseason was not that big. If Etling was taking a lot of 1st team practice reps then that must mean Etling had showed he could play.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 3:53 pm to DTRooster
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Only LSU and SEC playing time matters. Ok
...you asked for a metric
I gave you several
is it hard to understand that Harris had more experience with LSUs offense?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 3:54 pm to DTRooster
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By what metric is one more veteran than the other
The metric where Brandon Harris has been at LSU for 2+ years and Danny Etling has been at LSU for 1+ year.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 3:55 pm to Salmon
Nope but that doesn't make him anything other than more deeply entrenched in Miles psyche not more veteran or intelligent
Posted on 9/15/16 at 3:57 pm to TigerFan244
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How in the world did BH beat him out for the starting job?
Serious question so if your reply is going to be a juvenile response then don't bother posting. Anyone with any inside info?
If Jarrett Lee is that good how in the world did JJ beat him out for the starting job?
If Mettenburger is that good how in the world did Lee and JJ beat him out for the starting job.
Another poster also made a good point. It's hard to know how a QB will react when the lights come on.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 3:57 pm to DTRooster
Because obviously Brandon can't read a defense very well for whatever reason
Posted on 9/15/16 at 3:58 pm to TigerFan244
Brandon Harris is real good when he has a no contact jersey on and no rush coming in his face. Gets in the game and sh#+$ himself. Some guys are gamers and others are practice guys.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 3:58 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
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This is interesting because Etling practiced with the team all last year as he was sitting out his transfer year. And he didn't learn anything until a week ago?
I guess that's one way it could be interpreted. Or it could be interpreted that in the 10-14 days prior to that comment that Etling began to execute at a higher rate and demonstrating a better understanding than he had been previously.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 3:58 pm to GingerMerkin
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Some people just aren't that great in practice but turn it on in the games. I don't know if that is the case here but it does happen.
Examples?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:00 pm to DTRooster
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By what metric is one more veteran than the other
You know this. By the Les Miles matrix. Ever since all the JLee pick sixes, Miles has seemed to value not turning over the ball above all else in what he looks for in a QB.
Harris was a safe choice because he at least had 14 games of not turning the ball much for Les to see. I don't think its a coincidence that Miles called out Etlings turnover in the post game conference. Not throwing interceptions seem to be the only thing Miles cares about from his Qb.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:01 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
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Examples?
Eric Martin, per Bobby Hebert.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:01 pm to DTRooster
The absolute change in the play calling in the second quarter should tell you everything you need to know about who the coaches (or at least Cam) felt was the better QB. Personally, I believe they were just looking for the opportunity to get Etling in without totally destroying BH's confidence. However, since BH was playing bad, then they jumped at the chance to make the change.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:02 pm to Salmon
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if Miles was as stubborn as you all like to claim, he would not have benched Harris 2 series into the 2nd game of the season
If he didn't want to be fired at the end of the JSU game he had to make the change. You can't be this dense.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:04 pm to PoppaD
That makes sense cause Les would rather not score than commit a turnover. He looked like a Chihuahua shitting a peach seed when Etling was throwing tha ball around, lol
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:05 pm to TigerFan244
just like they saw beckwith over welter right
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:06 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
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This is interesting because Etling practiced with the team all last year as he was sitting out his transfer year. And he didn't learn anything until a week ago
Less is full of shite and so are the posters defending his decision to start Harris over Etling.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:08 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
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Some people just aren't that great in practice but turn it on in the games. I don't know if that is the case here but it does happen.
Examples?
Rohan Davey
Jamarcus Russell
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:10 pm to TigerFan244
I know this is redundant but there is a huge difference in the emotional aspect of practice and a live game. 100k people yelling their heads off, etc, etc
I first suspected BH having strong emotions in his first start 2 years ago at Auburn. all athletes (indeed all performers)have these emotions; some can control them and some can't.
a FACT: strong emotions, if not controlled mentally aversely affects the bodies physical abilities. if you have ever played in a golf tournament you know this. I have played in many(not pro not not these charity best ball things), and I can tell you some people fall apart due to the nerves and some are "gamers" and shoot much better in a tournament. I have literally seen guys that can't hardly sink a putt UNLESS there's a crowd around. these guys soak up the spotlight. true dat.
I first suspected BH having strong emotions in his first start 2 years ago at Auburn. all athletes (indeed all performers)have these emotions; some can control them and some can't.
a FACT: strong emotions, if not controlled mentally aversely affects the bodies physical abilities. if you have ever played in a golf tournament you know this. I have played in many(not pro not not these charity best ball things), and I can tell you some people fall apart due to the nerves and some are "gamers" and shoot much better in a tournament. I have literally seen guys that can't hardly sink a putt UNLESS there's a crowd around. these guys soak up the spotlight. true dat.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 4:22 pm to TigerFan244
Etling did not look as good as Harris in spring practices and scrimmages, or the first fall scrimmage.
He looked better against Jacksonville state, that's all we know. Hopefully it carries over to the rest of the season, there is no guarantee it will.
Harris looked like a world beater second half of MSU, and all of the New Mexico State game in 2014. The coaches gave him the start against Auburn and we saw what they had been seeing in practice.
I'm not saying Etling won't be our savior, I hope he does well. Just saying its in no way a given
He looked better against Jacksonville state, that's all we know. Hopefully it carries over to the rest of the season, there is no guarantee it will.
Harris looked like a world beater second half of MSU, and all of the New Mexico State game in 2014. The coaches gave him the start against Auburn and we saw what they had been seeing in practice.
I'm not saying Etling won't be our savior, I hope he does well. Just saying its in no way a given
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