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re: Sportscenter "Maybe Tom Herman should have taken that job in Baton Rouge"

Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:32 pm to
Time will tell whether Herman will be another Nick Saban or the next Curley Hallman. Hallman did ok at So. Miss and got in over his head at LSU. That became evident in his very first game as LSU HC at Georgia. My then wife and I put our binoculars on Hallman and thought he had the "deer in the headlights" look the entire game. It really did not get any better. People thought Curley Hallman made Brett Farve, when in fact Brett Farve made Hallman. Sonofabitch couldn't even cut it at the high school level.

As far as Alleva and Herman were concerned, Herman was never coming to LSU. He wanted to go to Texas more than anything. There is a hell of a lot more pressure in Texas than LSU and that's saying something. Alleva was not to blame for Herman.

That said, Herman got what he wished for. We'll see how it turns out. Some can make the next step up and some can't.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:36 pm to
You do know that LSU lost to UAB and Bama lost to ULM, don't you. shite has been known to happen to even good football schools and good coaches. You might want to wait a tad before you belly up to the laughing bar.

Nothing is yet to be seen as Herman has been a successful coach everywhere he's been. If I remember correctly, he's wearing a college football championship ring on his finger.

I don't know why it's so vital to you that Herman be seen as a bad coach. Herman will have nothing to do with the LSU football success or lack of it.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6067 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:36 pm to
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Strong recruited just fine at Texas. They have tons of talent.


This statement invalidates any and all opinions you may have about football
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:39 pm to
It takes time to turn a program around...nothing is overnight anywhere....people expect miracles
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:40 pm to
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You do know that LSU lost to UAB and Bama lost to ULM, don't you. shite has been known to happen to even good football schools and good coaches. You might want to wait a tad before you belly up to the laughing bar.


Post from a couple pages back: No problem to do a quick copy and paste.


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Saban lost to UAB year 1 at LSU.

How did he do his second year?

"2001?—?Saban led LSU to a 10–3 record, including an SEC Championship and a Sugar Bowl victory."

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Saban lost to ULM year 1 at Alabama

How did he do his second year?

"2008 season: During his second year as head coach of the Tide, Saban led his team from a sub-par season in 2007 to a perfect 12–0 regular season record. Saban finished the regular season undefeated for the first time in his career as a head coach"

Herman, who is no Nick Saban, lost to UCONN his first season and then followed it up with losses to Navy, SMU and Memphis in his second year. Yep, just like Nick Saban for SURE !!!
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:45 pm to
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Nothing is yet to be seen as Herman has been a successful coach everywhere he's been


Coach or head coach? Either way he wasn't very successful yesterday against an unranked and less talented team.

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he's wearing a college football championship ring on his finger.


this would require another copy and paste. I'm watching college football now.

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I don't know why it's so vital to you that Herman be seen as a bad coach


I don't care how he's seen. I am just glad he's not the HC at LSU and can actually explain why.

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Herman will have nothing to do with the LSU football success or lack of it.


I wish you would have read a couple pages of this thread. I have stated that I dislike UT almost as much as I like LSU. Always have and I'm pretty damn sure I always will. This is a WIN-WIN for me.
Posted by tilthatday
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
1014 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:45 pm to
I think what is bothering some of us is this: lots of folks who are preaching patience where CTH is concerned would be yelling for CEO's scalp if the roles were reversed.
If LSU had been thumped by BYU while Texas dominated Maryland, this fanbase would be in full melt down and there would be lots of talk about the one that got away. But suddenly everyone's Mother Theresa where Tom Herman is concerned: patience and understanding. bullshite. He blew his home opener in his first season at UT. You don't want to read too much into it but you can't ignore it either.
And for the O doubters: in his two stints as IHC he won the games he should have won. The guy is the real deal.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:21 pm to
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I think what is bothering some of us is this: lots of folks who are preaching patience where CTH is concerned would be yelling for CEO's scalp if the roles were reversed
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Anyone calling for any coaches head after 1 game is an idiot. It's a bad loss for Herman but to think that "proves" he would have been a bad hire is I'm sorry is foolish

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f LSU had been thumped by BYU while Texas dominated Maryland, this fanbase would be in full melt down and there would be lots of talk about the one that got away. But suddenly everyone's Mother Theresa where Tom Herman is concerned: patience and understanding. bullshite
. People overreact, there was a thread on another board Friday when Utah State was up 10-0 on Wisconsin some clown was saying how he knew Wisconsin was overrated how he thinks they'll go 7-5. Utah St lost 59-10.

Sorry I'm not judging a coach on 1 game either way. I think Herman has the potential to be a very good coach time will tell. As will my skepticism about O.

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And for the O doubters: in his two stints as IHC he won the games he should have won. The guy is the real deal.

This has been discussed a billion times and your logic is extremely flawed. However he also lost to 4 of the 5 best teams he played. I'm not hoping for a 9-3 maybe 10-2 ceiling
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Abilene, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7088 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:27 pm to
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Strong recruited just fine at Texas. They have tons of talent.


No, they don't.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37014 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:30 pm to
All I know is if it weren't for Herman we would have one more national championship and Les would still be our coach.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4954 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:32 pm to
Herman is another sumlin. Nothing more nothing less.
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
8661 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:34 pm to
Hell if don't Getz Coach O I want Aranda!!
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:35 pm to
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How did he do his second year? "2001?—?Saban led LSU to a 10–3 record, including an SEC Championship and a Sugar Bowl victory."

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Herman, who is no Nick Saban, lost to UCONN his first season and then followed it up with losses to Navy, SMU and Memphis in his second year.


This level of cherry picking in these 2quotes is truly mind boggling. Of course it's all true but what you leave out is just shows you to be ridiculously biased against Herman for reasons that defy reason. Yes he lost to Uconn he also went 13-1, won his conference, beat a vastly more talented team in a major bowl and finished #8, which is probably the first top 10 finish at UH in over 25 years, but you focus on 1 game
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14682 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:35 pm to
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In fairness he inherited a dumpster fire at Texas. A true rebuild.


That is complete bullshite. They have a ton of talent. Herman knows it, too. Bet they wish they still had Mack Brown, just like Tennessee wishes they still had Fulmer. Careful what you wish for! Herman pulled off one of the great hose jobs in recent history getting that kind of contract. They should have hired Petrino.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29321 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:20 pm to
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Hermans first outing: embarrassing


lost his starting RB to a concussion (a guy that could rush for 2k), and well, just has an awful defense.

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Felipe Franks debut: embarrassing


went 5/9 75 yards had one fumble then was removed for a senior who looked like complete crap. For his young debut vs a top defense, he didn't look bad, but Florida is also crappie talent wise offensively.


You guys are ridiculous. We'd be way better if we had Herman and Franks. Franks would be competing with Brennan in 2018 and Herman with our RBs and Aranda would dominate the SEC.

I really don't understand how grown men are so reactionary to first games. We did what we were supposed to against BYU, now several people are somehow crowning the offense like we played Florida or Bama. FSU lost their starting QB and looked just like I thought a pro style offense with a crap OL would look vs Bama.

Judging Herman on his first game at Texas is stupid. Judging Franks on his first game in college ever, vs a top defense and with none of his playmakers no less, is ridiculously stupid. Crowning Canada because we did basically the same thing Les Miles did, but with accurate passing and presnap motion vs BYU is stupid.

Don't worry, you're not alone as the media and many fan bases all over college football sound completely stupid right now after one game.
Posted by Patches
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
336 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:50 pm to
Texas has no intensity, they think they are deserving.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:41 am to
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In fairness, Maryland will be a top 25 team by year end.


And durbin will be the next big coaching name. He is that good. Been following him, he will be online for a big job soon.. him and Chad Morris, I still think gundy is underrated
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22981 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 8:27 am to
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That is complete bull shite. They have a ton of talent. Herman knows it, too. Bet they wish they still had Mack Brown, just like Tennessee wishes they still had Fulmer. Careful what you wish for! Herman pulled off one of the great hose jobs in recent history getting that kind of contract.


I was reading some UT tweets and one of the Longhorn fans lamented that they currently have $50mil tied up in guaranteed money on their coaches... They got what they got.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26783 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 8:30 am to
Jimbo lost to Saban and Herman lost to Maryland. We hired the right coach. Geaux O.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216476 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 8:33 am to
Ok you will also not give credit where it is due..... all you are is full of excuses and doing. What you can to bring LSU down because you don't like the O hire.... GFY.....
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