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Posted on 9/4/17 at 8:45 am to TexasTiger89
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Jimbo lost to Saban and Herman lost to Maryland. We hired the right coach. Geaux O.
O lost to Saban too.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 8:59 am to dcw7g
Someone gets it. O has been around a long time. Lots of good staffs he's been on and lots of recruiting battles. O has learned over time how to build a solid defensive front. What wins in the sec ?? Last year recruiting class was a huge one. We were losing too much to have someone come
In last minutes and lose out on Brennan, Taylor , Phillips, etc. alleva looks like a genius for now
In last minutes and lose out on Brennan, Taylor , Phillips, etc. alleva looks like a genius for now
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:04 am to Mo Jeaux
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And he will wind up having a more successful HC career than O.
The master of all Dumbasses proves it again and again.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:08 am to Tiger Ree
I see. Because you dislike the University of Texas you can't be rational or serious in your discussions about the school's football program or coach.
Anyone with a college football IQ of over 75, Will admit that the Texas football program has been a dumpster fire for a number of years. For LSU sake, I hope it remains that way. My hoping that doesn't prevent me from realizing that the situation inherited by Herman and the one inherited by Coach O are entirely different..
And by the way, what Nick did in any other year doesn't negate the fact that our loss to UAB was as bad as it gets and it shouldn't have happened guven the talent difference between the two programs. It did happen and that only proves that shite can happen in sports.
Anyone with a college football IQ of over 75, Will admit that the Texas football program has been a dumpster fire for a number of years. For LSU sake, I hope it remains that way. My hoping that doesn't prevent me from realizing that the situation inherited by Herman and the one inherited by Coach O are entirely different..
And by the way, what Nick did in any other year doesn't negate the fact that our loss to UAB was as bad as it gets and it shouldn't have happened guven the talent difference between the two programs. It did happen and that only proves that shite can happen in sports.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 9:12 am
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:15 am to Rouge
Herman inherited fools gold at Texas. Charlie Strong's recruiting classes had good athletes, but not good football players. They have a QB who is average at best, a 250 pound running back that avoids contact, LBs who can't shed blocks and make a play to save their asses, and defensive backs who look lost on every other play. The WR Johnson looks like a stud, but they couldn't or wouldn't get him the ball. Add to that some pretty head scratching playcall decisions on both sides of the ball and you have the shite sandwich Tom served up Saturday vs the Terps.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:43 am to H-Town Tiger
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Anyone calling for any coaches head after 1 game is an idiot. It's a bad loss for Herman but to think that "proves" he would have been a bad hire is I'm sorry is foolish
You do realize that he is 4-4 in his last 8 games? this is not about 1 game. With more talented and ranked teams (UH and UT) he has lost to Navy, SMU, Memphis and Maryland.
He would be 4-5 in his last 9 games but he bailed before the bowl loss.
I'm not calling for his head. I hope he signed a 10 year deal with a buyout big enough that Texas CAN'T fire him.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:44 am to Lonnie4LSU
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our loss to UAB was as bad as it gets and it shouldn't have happened guven the talent difference between the two programs. It did happen and that only proves that shite
LSU losing to UAB is actually worse. UAB was in what conference, Sun Belt or maybe CUSA. That's a lower level than LSU. SMU, UCONN Navy are all in the SAME CONFERENCE as Houston. Herman lost to teams in his peer group. Sure he had a better team than SMU it was a bad loss, but that loss is like LSU losing to Kentucky or Vanderbilt. Or Texas losing to Kansas ornIowa State. It's a bad loss but that it is some kind of disqualifier is ridiculous. Plenty of reasons to be skeptical about Herman, losing conference games to teams he should have beaten isn't one of them
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:47 am to Tiger Ree
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You do realize that he is 4-4 in his last 8 games? this is not about 1 game
Yes, so? Using a small, arbitrary selection of games is cherry picking and it's idiotic. It doesn't tell you everything and also can change rapidly.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:54 am to Mo Jeaux
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More successful HC career than O

This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 9:56 am
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:56 am to RedTigerRulz
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The master of all Dumbasses proves it again and again.
What do you mean? Be specific.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:57 am to Passing Wind
Is it really that bold?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:57 am to H-Town Tiger
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Yes, so? Using a small, arbitrary selection of games is cherry picking and it's idiotic. It doesn't tell you everything and also can change rapidly.
That's not an arbitrary selection, that's his career.
That's what we have to go on.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:03 am to magildachunks
What did we have to go on for O?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:03 am to H-Town Tiger
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This level of cherry picking in these 2quotes is truly mind boggling
First off "mind boggling" is my word. Show a little creativity and come up with your own stuff.
Second, I was replying to a post that said these two things:
"Saban lost to UAB year 1 at LSU."
"Saban lost to ULM year 1 at Alabama."
I was not cherry picking I was asking what Saban did after those horrid losses in his first seasons at LSU and Bama. As you could see by my post, at LSU he won the SEC and the Sugar Bowl in his second year. At Bama he went undefeated during the regular season in his second season.
When the poster used the Saban examples above he was implying that Tom Herman is like Saban because he had a horrid loss to a shite team also.
I was merely pointing out that while Saban actually turned his teams around and had great second seasons with each one, TOM Herman got worse in his second season losing to Navy, SMU and Memphis and finishing in sixth place in his conference.
Don't really see what you think I am cherry picking. I do find it ridiculous people comparing Tom Herman to Nick Saban, Urban Meyer and who was your choice? Oh yeah, Pete Carroll. Ha Ha Ha
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Of course it's all true
Sure is !!!
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but what you leave out is just shows you to be ridiculously biased against Herman for reasons that defy reason
In my post asking what Herman did in his second season vs Saban at LSU and Bama? What exactly did I leave out that you find so appalling?
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Yes he lost to Uconn he also went 13-1, won his conference, beat a vastly more talented team in a major bowl and finished #8, which is probably the first top 10 finish at UH in over 25 years, but you focus on 1 game
Yes he did. Again that was in the season in which he had the horrible loss to UCONN. My point was that Saban lost a game to shite teams at LSU and Bama in his first season. In the second seasons, Saban did much better. For Herman to be considered to be on par with Nick Saban he would have not done much worse in his second season and finish in 6th place in his conference and go from the #6 ranked team in the country to UN-RANKED after the Memphis loss.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:06 am to Datbayoubengal
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You guys are ridiculous. We'd be way better if we had Herman and Franks.
Very obvious troll post.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:09 am to Mo Jeaux
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What did we have to go on for O?
Big difference between the two is O's failure humbled him and taught him what he needs to do to be a successful head coach. Much like Saban's failure at Miami made him a better coach.
Herman doesn't have that humbleness...yet.
Maybe this job will give that to him. But many Texas fans are worrying right now that they hired another coach not ready for prime time.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:09 am to FlatLakeTiger
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Talented quitters. The team lacks players who expect to win.
Is it not the coach's job to change that?
Not every high school player comes from a successful HS program and yet wins championships on the college and pro level.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:10 am to magildachunks
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That's not an arbitrary selection, that's his career
Wut?
His career is 27 games as a head coach, not 8. Singling out the last 8 is the definition of arbitrary.
Whats more relevant that he was 4-4 in his last 8 games or 18-1 in the previous 19? There are good reasons to question if Tom Herman was ready for a major job like UT or LSU when you cherry pick it undermines your argument.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:11 am to magildachunks
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Big difference between the two is O's failure humbled him and taught him what he needs to do to be a successful head coach.
Maybe.
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