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re: Sportscenter "Maybe Tom Herman should have taken that job in Baton Rouge"
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:43 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:43 pm to magildachunks
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Yeah, inheriting three top 25 recruiting classes in a row, two in the top ten, is having to start from the foundation.
This is the exact opposite of the stars don't matter argument, saying basically they are infallible. Some players and teams classes are overrated. It appears Texas talent is overrated/doesn't fit the schemes they are running. Herman may prove to be overrated but judging him on this game is idiotic.
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:44 pm to Revelator
Texas has more talent by far than Maryland.
Texas lost a game yesterday to Maryland.
Both statements are verifiable. Y'all can whitewash that loss all you want but those facts will not change.
Texas lost a game yesterday to Maryland.
Both statements are verifiable. Y'all can whitewash that loss all you want but those facts will not change.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:50 pm to LSU Groupee
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Did Herman bang your girlfriend?
I'm not sure he is into "girlfriends", it looks like he enjoys the company of football players.
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Herman has been far more productive as a real head coach than O and its not even close.
Not lately he hasn't it. Now if you're talking 3 seasons ago yes he was more successful. Not so much the last two.
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but you have nothing but conjecture going for you in pushing your agenda that O is the better coach at this time.
Hmmm, I don't think I ever mentioned Coach Eaux in this thread. My being totally thrilled that Herman is at Texas and not at LSU has nothing to do with CEO.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:54 pm to omegaman66
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Y'all can whitewash that loss all you want but those facts will not change.
Who has whitewashed the loss?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:58 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Herman may prove to be overrated but judging him on this game is idiotic.
Is it still idiotic if a person is also looking at last season? When Herman and his ranked team lost to Navy, SMU and Memphis?
Look the guy finished the end of last season with a 4-3 record. If he had stayed for the bowl game it would have been 4-4.
If Texas has money to burn for that, then more power to them. This was the fourth time UT and Maryland played. This was Maryland's first win and the first time they ever scored one point against UT. So yeah, I'm going to go ahead and judge him on this game.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 3:00 pm to omegaman66
What is more talent? Because of stars? I mean a ton of players from Charlie Strong's classes seem to have left the program over the last couple of seasons. While I do think they were better, I don't think they were head and shoulders better than Maryland. I think you still have a lot of overrated players who had not been coached right by the previous regime who are trying to learn still.
As I said, I don't think Texas will be very good this year based on the schedule and the learning. I do expect them to be a 10 win team next season.
As I said, I don't think Texas will be very good this year based on the schedule and the learning. I do expect them to be a 10 win team next season.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 3:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
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This is the exact opposite of the stars don't matter argument, saying basically they are infallible. Some players and teams classes are overrated. It appears Texas talent is overrated/doesn't fit the schemes they are running. Herman may prove to be overrated but judging him on this game is idiotic.
So now recruiting rankings don't matter? His "number 2 class" isn't pro for him?
How many more goal posts are we going to move?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 3:08 pm to geauxbrown
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Hermans first outing: embarrassing
Felipe Franks debut: embarrassing
Cam Akers debut: embarrassing
B Harris first outing, also embarrassing.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 3:16 pm to Tiger Ree
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Is it still idiotic if a person is also looking at last season? When Herman and his ranked team lost to Navy, SMU and Memphis? Look the guy finished the end of last season with a 4-3 record. If he had stayed for the bowl game it would have been 4-4. .
Yes, cherry picking that you are so fond of is always idiotic. I said a many times his resume is thin given 2 years as a HC and he was a risk. But Looking a fraction of games is always foolish. Mike Archer was 10-1-1 his first year, 17-3-1 by your standards and had losing seasons in year 3-4. Mack Brown was 1-10 his first 2 years at UNC and lost only 3 his last 2 years there 8- years later or whatever. Small samples do not tell you anything
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 3:21 pm to magildachunks
I'm very curious where you get the #2 from
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 3:56 pm to magildachunks
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So now recruiting rankings don't matter? His "number 2 class" isn't pro for him?
it's not as simple as rankings matter or they don't. In the big picture they do, meaning teams that are NC contenders typically have top 5-10 classes in the 2-4 years prior. A higher percentage of 5*s make the NFL but still many do not. So SOME player and some team rankings will be overrated. Who's #2 class are you talking about?
quote:. What goal posts are being moved? Bit seemed apparent Texas talent was overrated last year. Herman's had 1 game, if you are judging him a failure on that then you goalposts are in the wrong place.
How many more goal posts are we going to move?
ETA: didn't Herman have less talent than Florida State and Oklahoma? Yet he won those games
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:13 pm to H-Town Tiger
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ETA: didn't Herman have less talent than Florida State and Oklahoma? Yet he won those games
And Louisville also.
He had some great wins, no question. Wins that very few if anyone would have expected.
In 2015 he beat Louisville and Florida State. In spite of that in the 11th game of the season he loses to UCONN.
In 2016 he opens with a wins against OU and beats Louisville again. But while undefeated and ranked #6 in the country he loses to Navy, As #11 he loses to SMU and then Memphis.
It's like both his best wins and worst losses are completely mind-boggling. Just like his loss to Maryland yesterday. Very erratic coach.
Oh, the #2 ranking the poster referenced is the 24/7 team rankings for the coming signing class - 2018.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:15 pm to Rouge
Man is a heck of a acoach but his team looked bad this week. I think he is going to do great things though at Texas and he could have done great things here
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:29 pm to Rouge
Tom H might be the most overpaid and overrated coach in the country. Texas was not even close to prepared to play Maryland. Texas was a disgrace on the field and they have talent too.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:42 pm to Tiger Ree
" is it still idiotic"
Judging anything off a coaches first game at a university who has seen its football program struggle mightly for yrs might not be idiotic, but it certainly is silly..
It's amusing to see some who feel Coach O failing badly for 3 yrs at Old Miss is not a big deal, but Herman losing his 1st game is.
Judging anything off a coaches first game at a university who has seen its football program struggle mightly for yrs might not be idiotic, but it certainly is silly..
It's amusing to see some who feel Coach O failing badly for 3 yrs at Old Miss is not a big deal, but Herman losing his 1st game is.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:44 pm to PUB
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Texas was not even close to prepared to play Maryland.
Hey, chill man. Texas doesn't have as much time to practice as your average college football team.
You know how long it takes to kiss over 100 guys. Then he has them all piss in plastic cups and analyses it to make sure they are hydrating correctly. That's it, sometimes they may get a few sprints in.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:48 pm to DBU
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Strong recruited just fine at Texas. They have tons of talent.
yuppers. texas will have more talent than their opponents in all but a couple games this year. sc has more and i'll assume ou is about even.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:51 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Yes, cherry picking that you are so fond of is always idiotic. I said a many times his resume is thin given 2 years as a HC and he was a risk. But Looking a fraction of games is always foolish. Mike Archer was 10-1-1 his first year, 17-3-1 by your standards and had losing seasons in year 3-4. Mack Brown was 1-10 his first 2 years at UNC and lost only 3 his last 2 years there 8- years later or whatever. Small samples do not tell you anything
They just don't get it, H-Town. In their minds yesterday ended all talk about who is better, Herman or Orgeron. Even though your thoughts are 100% spot on, they just want listen. Saban lost to UAB year 1 at LSU. Saban lost to ULM year 1 at Alabama. I guess that dude is a joke of a coach.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:51 pm to Mo Jeaux
Oh really but u can run your mouth about him ending up with a better career than O. GTFO u don't know a damn thing.
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