re: Sportscenter "Maybe Tom Herman should have taken that job in Baton Rouge"

You're kind of slow huh. I'm sorry little buddy carry on.

Mo Jeaux, are you giving any credit to O? He disciplining his team and still kicking arse but you are calling out people who compliment O? What's your problem?

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Yeah, Jimbo did really great !!!

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Straw man.

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see. Because you dislike the University of Texas you can't be rational or serious in your discussions about the school's football program or coach.

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How is posting records, conference finishes, comparisons of first to second years on the job not being rational? Everything I have posted can easily be verified by visiting the ESPN website or many others. If something I have posted is incorrect, point it out and I will edit my post.

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My hoping that doesn't prevent me from realizing that the situation inherited by Herman and the one inherited by Coach O are entirely different..

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What does that have to do with Tom Herman going 4-4 in his last eight games with ranked teams with more talent while losing to unranked teams with less talent? Herman had more talent than every team in the AAC and finished in sixth place. What does that have to do with the situations Coach Eaux or Herman inherited?

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And by the way, what Nick did in any other year doesn't negate the fact that our loss to UAB was as bad as it gets and it shouldn't have happened guven the talent difference between the two programs. It did happen and that only proves that shite can happen in sports.

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For people to compare Tom Herman because he lost to UCONN to a multiple NC winning coach because he lost to a shite team is stupid and ridiculous. I am only pointing that out with the FACTS I posted. Yes Saban lost to shitty teams as did Herman - that doesn't mean Herman is as good as or better than Nick Saban.

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Yes Saban lost to shitty teams as did Herman - that doesn't mean Herman is as good as or better than Nick Saban.

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No one is saying that he is. Another straw man argument.

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Plenty of reasons to be skeptical about Herman, losing conference games to teams he should have beaten isn't one of them

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Really? Wow !!!

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When the poster used the Saban examples above he was implying that Tom Herman is like Saban because he had a horrid loss to a shite team also

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This comment here shows the disconnect you have from reality. No one is implying or suggesting Herman is like Saban, that's you reading into it because you can not or will not understand a nuanced argument. For you everything is either or, the world doesn't work that way. All he is doing is pointing out that ALL coaches have bad losses, even the GOAT.

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Don't really see what you think I am cherry picking

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Everything that's all you do whether trashing Herman or promoting O is cherry picking.
For example

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I was merely pointing out that while Saban actually turned his teams around and had great second seasons with each one, TOM Herman got worse in his second season losing to Navy, SMU and Memphis and finishing in sixth place in his conference.

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Every thing here is cherry picked. Yes Saban did better in year 2 at LSU, how about Year 3. That was worse than year 1. In year 4 he lost to an unranked team at home, like Herman lost to UConn in year 1. Leaving out how those seasons finished is not telling the whole story.
Also the 6th place thing you love to bring up made up by you. The conferences don't rank teams that way. You say it to make him sound worse, that's text book cherry picking
He was 9-3. That's a pretty good season. He lost to 3 conference teams, 2 of which had a similar record. Despite you assertions are not horrible unforgivable losses. Memphis was when he was obviously focused on other jobs, sorta like Saban losing to Iowa at LSU in his last game.

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I do find it ridiculous people comparing Tom Herman to Nick Saban, Urban Meyer and who was your choice? Oh yeah, Pete Carroll. Ha Ha Ha

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No one is comparing his to those coaches, we are using examples of how even the best coaches lose games they probably shouldn't. It's not that hard to comprehend but you obviously do not have the capacity or willingness to understand.

Herman is in his third year as as HC, so that's all we have to go on. We don't know how his career will pan out. Hell we don't know how this season will pan out. Making literal comparisons like comparing his 2nd year to Saban's is just more cherry picking since you can't under stand the underlying point, which is simply you can't judge a coach on a handful of games. Using examples of losses to conference teams because of their names shows how little you understand about football.

So, in his interim stints he had an aggregate number of losses equal to those in Herman's supposedly horrible season that negates his coaching ability.

No thanks we good