re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton

Yeah it was dumb, very dumb but it was a teenager pouring fake pee into a test cup. It doesn’t deserve 2 years imo.

IMO it should be 6 games and probabtion for 2 years.

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Let's be honest this was straight up stupid on his part for attempting to cheat and getting caught. Do you know how many people cheat? Tons but they don't get caught because they don't cheat by pouring the urine into a beaker lol

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I don't think anyone is or should be arguing that his conduct wasn't stupid. But is such conduct significantly more egregious than the commission of actual crimes such as assault and battery, DWI, sexual assault, etc? All of which appear to carry a far less substantial administrative penalty.

Drive under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol (even underaged)? Little, to sometimes no penalty. Tamper with a drug test. Two years? That seems a bit out of proportion.

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t's in place to force the athlete to provide a true sample. It makes perfect sense. similar to refusing sobriety tests in LA results in an automatic suspension for a year. As opposed to 90 days if you blow illegally.

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Yeah i may not agree with the laws, but if you refuse a test now, you get hit with 1 year suspension or you have to get interlock device which is very pricey. You refuse again, two year suspension.

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I am going to re-emphasize the fact that Fulton actually passed the test. This ruling needs to be overturned

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You're dealing with two separate infractions and I don't think there should be an "incentive" for someone to tamper or attempt to falsify a drug test. There must be consequences for that...even if the test came back "passed".

However, the second issue is is that conduct more egregious than other conduct that is punished less severely?

There were consequences. It has been a year. But he “attempted” to cheat on a test that he didn’t actually cheat on. And then went on to pass it. No way in hell should that be 2 years.

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Hell Mark Ingram just got a 1/4 season suspension for failing a test in the NFL.

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Didnt Gordon get suspended for a very long time for weed? multiple weed failures?

shite you got dudes doing years in Jail for weed.

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All of which appear to carry a far less substantial administrative penalty. 

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charges being dropped and DA refusing to prosecute plays the role in that. I don't think either is right. I personally think he should be reinstated but it's the NCAA and they're gonna do the whole were not gonna set precedent for repealing a tampering punishment.

2 years is very overly harsh, makes no sense for this to be 2 years but many other much worse things may not even get more than a game.

I fully understand a year, but to strip a student athlete 2 years (an 18 year old at that) of eligibility is just a bit harsh considering the short clock.

Especially in this case when he was actually clean, and they never even tested the tampered sample, just caught him with it.

Let me preface by saying I hope the appeal is successful and he plays. We need him.

That said if I were doing the review of his appeal without p&g colored glasses, I would deny it.

You simply do not get a pass because you get caught trying to cheat the test. He was caught red handed trying to replace his sample.

He admits it.

As much as detest the NCAA, if you are stupid enough to bring a sample AND get caught, there have to be consequences.

And yes, to me, cheating is worse than a positive sample for weed.

Once you cheat you give up the right to be judged on the actual sample.

The penalty is for trying to cheat the system. It’s fair.

Bottom line it should be commensurate to what professional sports does. MLB is 1/2 a season and NFL is 6 games for EITHER failing or cheating. 2 years in the NCAA is the equivalent of 1/2 a career by professional standards.