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tigerfoot
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
The rule was there. He broke it.

Is it possibly too severe, maybe. But I don’t see anything unfair


DCtiger1
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Dude failed a test for weed in April


He didn’t fail. The threshold is 15ng/ml. He registered at 7ng/ml


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VolTiger13
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
He will lose two years eligibility and not able to redshirt during that time.


00 Tech Grad
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lose two years eligibility and not able to redshirt during that time.


That’s bullshite


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RB10
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There is no language covering that. That's why there's an argument here, and room for the lawyers to work.


If it doesn't explicitly state that the test has to be submitted to be considered falsified that leaves it open to interpretation by the NCAA.

So basically what LSU is trying to do is pressure the NCAA to interpret the rule differently? I don't really see that ending well.


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BayouBengals18
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Does the language of the rule state that the test has to be submitted to be considered falsified?


In the article, it says the punishment is administered for “tampering with, or attempting to tamper with” a sample. So, no.


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Lester Earl
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
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Chill the fuch out. An 18 year old cheated on a drug test.




he attempted to cheat a test. There is a built in penalty. If they want to all of a sudden change the punishment, Im all for it. But they don't have any reason to.

Im about as chill as I can get buddy.
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IM_4_LSU
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
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taking away have of 


Both math and grammar HAVE taken a big hit today.


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DCtiger1
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
the punishment for tampering shouldn't be worse than an actual failed drug test. That's just absurd and defies logic. That would be like an innocent person serving a harsher punishment for a murder they didn't commit because they tampered with evidence.


Lester Earl
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I don’t know how it works, but the two-year suspension had better not count as eligibility years. If he’s suspended two years, then he should at least have two additional years of eligibility afterward.




You eligibility clock starts the moment you enroll in college. To think that someone that tampered with a drug test should be awarded extra years while serving a suspension is fricking hilarious


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ChanceOfRainIsNever
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I’m usually a “rules are rules” type when it comes to things like this but Fulton’s situation is just straight up unfair. To take away 2 years of a kids’ eligibility is ridiculous. I get that you want to send a message that people shouldn’t attempt to cheat a drug test but I think a year suspension more than gets the point across and acts as a deterrent. Anything more than a year just comes off as being petty and rubbing the kids nose in it. I hope Kristian and his family are successful in their appeal and the NCAA can get over itself and change its penalties. This goes beyond my LSU fandom too, I would feel the same way if Kristian played for any other school that’s how straight up unfair this situation is. GEAUX TIGERS


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SlowurRole
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
The NCAA is a joke! From the Clearing House to their hypocritical bylaws! They have no interest in doing the right thing! It’s just a big corporation that only cares about the $!


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Solo Cam
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
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he attempted to cheat a test. Their is a built in penalty. If they want to all of a sudden change the punishment, Im all for it. But they don't have any reason to.

I hear ya man but I just think some common sense can be used in this situation and they could say “Man this punishment does not fit this crime”


El Magnifico
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Wow, never knew the whole story. This is a bunch of horse shite to the highest degree. He should be reinstated immediately.


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Bottom9
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Jason Shoemake,


frick this kunt


Eighteen
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Chill the fuch out. An 18 year old cheated on a drug test.

Aaron Hernandez killed someone at Florida. Tim Williams said he failed more drug test then he could count at Bama. Cam Robinson stole a gun and got busted with drugs and arrested. Dashawn Hand got a DUI. Jeffery Simmons beat the shite out of a girl. Joe Mixon knocked a woman out. Jonathan Taylor beat a woman and got shots at Georgia and Bama.

He should be punished, I agree. But taking away half of a players eligibility for a falsified drug test is ridiculous. Fulton smoked pot and tried to give a fake piss test. Saying that punishment is deserving for that crime is moronic.

Hell Mark Ingram just got a 1/4 season suspension for failing a test in the NFL.


Damn


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Alt26
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
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The rule was there. He broke it.

Is it possibly too severe, maybe. But I don’t see anything unfair


Yep. The issue is the severity of the penalty, not the "crime" and rule. That part is pretty cut and dry. He broke the rule and ignorance of the "law" is not a defense.

The question is should such infraction necessitate the loss of, at minimum, 40% of your college eligibility when the penalty for the action which the test is designed to detect, engagement in drug use, is far less severe?


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IM_4_LSU
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
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I hear ya man but I just think some common sense can be used in this situation and they could say “Man this punishment does not fit this crime


Let's be honest this was straight up stupid on his part for attempting to cheat and getting caught. Do you know how many people cheat? Tons but they don't get caught because they don't cheat by pouring the urine into a beaker lol


RB10
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
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I hear ya man but I just think some common sense can be used in this situation and they could say “Man this punishment does not fit this crime”


The punishment definitely doesn't fit the crime. If the article pressures the NCAA to look into changing the rule that's definitely a good thing overall.

Unfortunately, the NCAA doesn't rule on anything quickly and the change will likely come after Fulton is gone.


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Nicolaus Copernicus
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re: Sports Illustrated Article About Fulton
Mudbone posted up like a bigdog in that pic!


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