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re: Some bullet points. Take them as you will

Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15551 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:23 am to
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Hard pitch count is there because that's what his insurance carrier,


Get out of here with that bullshite. He would be going on the 5th day just as he will when he is in the pros. If he is strong they will let him go but I would bet he doesn't get above 90.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 11:26 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34766 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:30 am to
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You have to limit Skenes to 70/80 max for him to have a chance to come back Monday for maybe 25 max in relief


It’s so funny to me to read you dummies tripping over yourselves, acting like y’all know what it’s like to manage a multimillion dollar arm
Y’all even go as far as throwing out specific pitch counts like y’all know wtf y’all are talking about

1.) you don’t know what it takes for skenes to heal and be ready for his next outing
2.) you have no clue what his arm can/cannot do healthwise


So why on gods green earth do y’all think you know what’s best for him? It honestly blows my mind that y’all think you’re qualified and informed enough to make these calls
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14317 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:37 am to
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Hard pitch count is there because that's what his insurance carrier, the trainers, and arm science tells them what it needs to be. Remember this kid is going to be a multi-millionaire soon and the guys that are prepared to write that check make the rules. I don't care if he's got a perfect game going, he's not going over 60-65 pitches.

It will be like 117 hours since he last pitched. Nearly 5 full days of rest.

Throwing 110 pitches on 5 days rest instead of 65 is not going to jeopardize his career.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21432 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:37 am to
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You have to limit Skenes to 70/80 max for him to have a chance to come back Monday for maybe 25 max in relief


Where do y’all come up with these magic numbers

The coach said before the tournament they planned to throw Skenes 2-3 times. He’s pitched like 4 times in the last month and one of those outings was only a few innings. It’s really up to him how much he wants to push it, but he hasn’t exactly been over worked.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84260 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:41 am to
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When is the last time Skenes pitched in a reliever role.

At Air Force.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10337 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:46 am to
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I'd take the over on 60 pitches for Skenes!


Yep. If the decision is made to pitch Skenes tonight then you have to be prepared to have him throw more than 60 pitches.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
60916 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:47 am to
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The thought of giving our offense a chance to go win this early with Hurd (whose FB they couldn't hit the other night) while having Skenes on red red alert is not as ludicrous as some might think.


It’s not ludicrous at all.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40427 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:48 am to
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I think many of you advocating this do not understand the mind-set difference between a starter, long reliever, and closer.


I don't know baseball but doesn't he have a whole pregame process

Not hey go through a few in the pen we need you in 2 minutes
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
21436 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:52 am to
His pitch count will be 90-100 put that in your pipe and smoke it.

This may be his last game till next year. No way he pitches over the summer for his pro team.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
11332 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:58 am to
300 down the lines is really sad
Posted by TigersD69
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
1011 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:10 pm to
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His pitch count will be 90-100 put that in your pipe and smoke it.


Lol...so delusional he goes 100 pitches tonight Johnson loses the trust of every single parent and coach of a big time prospect considering LSU. Will severely damage his reputation in the coaching world as well. And that is straight out of the mouth of someone that played this game at the highest level for a long time and knows arms (not me).

Everyone will understand protecting him and it would be a death nail for Johnson if God forbid anything bad came of it. Ain't gonna happen.
Posted by GeauxBall
Member since Apr 2019
450 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:15 pm to
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Hard pitch count is there because that's what his insurance carrier,


"Hi, Coach JJ, this is Jake from State Farm, ya we are calling to tell you Skenes can only throw 50 tonight"

GTFOH!
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12068 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:19 pm to
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2. If Skenes starts tonight he will be on a hard limit pitch count & WILL NOT be available for the Champ series outside of maybe 25 pitches on Monday if it got there.


Why ? Are we keeping him fresh for the pirates postseason run? This is what he came here for. Hard limit my arse.

He had those pitch counts earlier this season so he could throw more NOW. Quit acting like that still applies in the World Series.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
28070 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:21 pm to
I 100% agree. If you can do what you said, then you may save Skenes and give him his normal start.

The thing about “relief” is you can bring him in T the start of a new inning.

Posted by Purple N Gold Blood
Gods country
Member since Sep 2009
3147 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:23 pm to
Agree with you 90-100 pitches at least , if he’s feeling good . He’s a big strong guy . Not out of question.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11477 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:27 pm to
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2. If Skenes starts tonight he will be on a hard limit pitch count & WILL NOT be available for the Champ series outside of maybe 25 pitches on Monday if it got there.

4. Soemone besides Skenes is going to have to throw strikes tonight and probably going to have to do it for 5+ innings.


quote:

Take them as you will


I take them as you’re wrong
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9889 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:34 pm to
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One of their hitters even admitted this in the press conference last night after the game. Said they need to adjust how they hit.


And then proceeded to say "hitting is hard so can't control that." Let them keep swinging for the fences and flying out.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8406 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:35 pm to
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1- Wake has been wholly unimpressive offensively in this series. Their "legendary" offensive numbers were put up in an inferior league and pitching (to the SEC) playing homes games in a matchbox ballpark.


I don't know where this concept that Wake had a legendary offense came from.

Wake is #26 in the country in batting average (LSU is #18)
Wake is #2 in the country in runs scored (LSU is #1)
Wake is #14 in the country in hits (LSU is #6)
Wake is #5 in the country in home runs (LSU is #2)
Wake is #5 in the country in OBP (LSU is #2)
Wake is #8 in the country in slugging percentage (LSU is #5)

Their numbers are very similar to LSU's, which is why it isn't surprising that the combined total score of our two games is 7-5.

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2. If Skenes starts tonight he will be on a hard limit pitch count & WILL NOT be available for the Champ series outside of maybe 25 pitches on Monday if it got there.


You simply cannot sit Skenes in an effort to hold him for a game we may not even play. So the risk you take is that in order to get to the championship series, you play your ace and see how it plays out. Couldn't we also go up 12-2 in the first three innings and sit Skenes?

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4. Soemone besides Skenes is going to have to throw strikes tonight and probably going to have to do it for 5+ innings.


So you think that Skenes, if he starts, will be pulled in the 4th inning? Based on what?

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5. Our offense is still better than theirs is (even with Thompson and Millazo)


Yep, see above.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
12897 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:45 pm to
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And that is straight out of the mouth of someone that played this game at the highest level for a long time and knows arms (not me).

He (and you) have no idea what you are talking about
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
12779 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:51 pm to
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2. If Skenes starts tonight he will be on a hard limit pitch count & WILL NOT be available for the Champ series outside of maybe 25 pitches on Monday if it got there.
This is nonsense. Skenes can go 100 pitches.
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