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re: so who is the guy who calls down saying to challenge a play?
Posted on 10/9/18 at 4:57 pm to tigersbb
Posted on 10/9/18 at 4:57 pm to tigersbb
quote:
Ground level on the sideline when the play is a pile of players in the middle of the field is the worst place to determine a spot.
x100. That is why there is a guy in the booth.
Putting it all together, this is my working hypothesis. Guy in booth is watching video feed and thinks he is going to get a replay. Replay delayed, and he did not see it clearly enough on the live feed to make the call. He hesitates. Next snap. It's over.
I'm told that there is a guy in Birmingham with the SEC watching the feed too, and that he can call for review on his own.
I've worked sidelines but never booth, and I could be full of hooey. It was unfortunate.
This post was edited on 10/9/18 at 4:58 pm
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:02 pm to BruceUnhinged
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Mentioned this in another thread. The Video replay feed comes from UF in-stadium broadcast. They didn’t get the replay until after the field goal. UF’s fault. Still should of called a TO though
Not true
All SEC Schools use DVSport servers that receive a direct feed from the TV provider for that game (CBS/ESPN)
When the SEC is reviewing a play, they are looking at the same camera angles shown on the TV feed. The DVSport system helps separate them so the official can hop from angle to angle. They also can look at the video frame by frame
The SEC replay booth has 3 people. 2 are the official working crew of SEC officials. 1 is a technician provided by the host school.
The tech cues plays for the officials to call up on their screens but even if he fails at his job, the other guys are still looking at the TV feed in real time.
One SEC booth official is in direct comms with Birmingham, the other has direct comms with the crew on the field
Many times, the crew upstairs will assist the line judge on the field when spotting a big play. I cannot confirm if this happened at Florida
TLDR; there are three SEC officials watching the direct live TV feed in real time. Any of those three should have said "we need to review the spot" but somehow failed to do do so.
This post was edited on 10/9/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:05 pm to I20goon
quote:
- the in-stadium feed likely does not show all the different angles that the broadcast feed does.
Maybe, but that was just the basic gamecast angle where it was clear he made it over the line.
quote:
It was an SEC matchup, reviews are done from Birmingham. Automatic on all change of possession and scoring plays. Not on spots.
- Is there a process to demand, from Birmingham, a review on a non-automatic? yes. But refs have to be involved one way or other.
O would have had to call a TO to get a review. If he would have won it, he would have gotten the TO back.
It was 3rd & 2. Presumably O and the offensive coaches in the booth knew they were running up the middle BEFORE the ball was snapped. You would think SOMEONE has to be cognizant of the line to get and immediately recognized it it was close.
I'm not blaming O per se for not being able to make the determination from field level. But there has to be SOMEONE upstairs watching. I, I'm sure like many, sit in the stands on the sidelines and can see when we think there is a bad spot. Even if no replay you would think one coach in the booth would have seen that too.
That's when the HC has to do some very quick analysis. 7-7 game ~4:00 minutes to go in first half, ball at UF 15 and 1 TO remaining. Is saving that TO worth it at that point?
Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:10 pm to Alt26
quote:
It was an SEC matchup, reviews are done from Birmingham. Automatic on all change of possession and scoring plays. Not on spots.
- Is there a process to demand, from Birmingham, a review on a non-automatic? yes. But refs have to be involved one way or other.
False
The SEC reviewed a spot in the LSU/Ole Miss game
Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:16 pm to geauxdroddz
LOL. How can you say this and post on here about college football?????????????????????????
:lol: :lol:
You clearly don't watch it.
:lol: :lol: You clearly don't watch it.
This post was edited on 10/9/18 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:28 pm to keakar
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so who is "the guy" was he taking a piss at the time and never saw the live action play?
Who cares? This is O saying he accepts full responsibility then finding a scapegoat nonetheless. We had possession and timeouts. It's not like when you are on defense and racing to figure things out before the offense lines up and runs a play. This is the type of thing Les Miles would have gotten absolutely killed for.
Posted on 10/9/18 at 6:42 pm to keakar
It was 4th and less than a yard, should have called a timeout, asked for a measurement and if still short by inches, go for it. Stupid scared play calling by the coach that said, "we comin". More like we goin to the toilet bowl again.
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:21 pm to Solo Cam
quote:If they showed the same replays on the big screen that we at home saw, then O is the one who ultimately fricked up. Plain and simple. He should not have relied on anyone else to make a call on something he can see for himself. It sounds like he has less to do with things than we originally thought. Even a CEO type coach needs to pay attention to things like that.
I’m not sure who fricked up but it was a royal one.
ETA: If the replay did not come up on the big screen, he should have called time out. I mean, at least three of our players were signaling first down, including Burrow. How did O not see that it was close?
This post was edited on 10/9/18 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:34 pm to Tigeralum2008
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TLDR; there are three SEC officials watching the direct live TV feed in real time. Any of those three should have said "we need to review the spot" but somehow failed to do do so.
You sound like you’re in the know here, so maybe you can clear this up..
What do the LSU staff members upstairs have access to? Can they see the TV broadcast in real time, or are they limited to whatever replay is shown in the stadium?
Also are there rules about outside communications during a game for team staff? In other words, could they watch the live broadcast, all-22 online, twitter, whatever from the booth during the game? For some reason I feel like there are rules against this but I could be wrong.
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:46 pm to lostinbr
I mean, if O would have at least said "I didn't think there was a good chance they would overturn a spot on the field." I would have understood that more than him saying it's someone else's responsibility.
Either O is the head coach or not.
Either O is the head coach or not.
This post was edited on 10/9/18 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:03 pm to keakar
quote:
because this is a huge problem that seems to be being ignored as nothing but a failure to be able to see the replay by O
I agree this is a huge problem. To say LSU needed that first down is an understatement. I mean you would not see a hickup like that on a Nick Saban coached team.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:32 am to keakar
All of us watching on CBS saw it immediately. If a few viewers would have the direct number of "the guy who calls down to challenge a play" we could have woke him to the fact and he would have relayed the message to Coach O
sooner.
Just saying....
sooner.
Just saying....
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:41 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:What I said is TRUE.
False
The SEC reviewed a spot in the LSU/Ole Miss game
quote:this is true
reviews are done from Birmingham
I said the only AUTOMATIC reviews are scoring and change of possession.
In an SEC matchup the review official is in Birmingham.
You said in the OM game Birmingham reviewed a spot. No shite, SEC matchup. They would've reviewed this one too...if we had called a timeout.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 5:53 am
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