re: So I spoke to Will Wade tonight…

Not one word of regret for his failures of judgement or action? No apologies for disappointing a team, university or fan base? No words of I failed to live up to the standards of character, honesty, loyalty and integrity I teach and expect from my players? This is how a gifted and talented coach and person goes off the rails and sabotages their future. They convince themselves, and others, they were just living by the unwritten rules of the jungle when deep down they have neither remorse nor character of purpose. They're either afraid in their ability to EARN the wins or are too lazy to get them honestly.

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He could be coaching Bama in 5 years and I'd still love him.

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Now, I wouldn't go that far.

But what Wade provided was hope for decades of relevant basketball at a place where that had not been the case for 3 decades. He looked at LSU as a place, with the (potential) resources, to build a championship caliber program. On day one he compared LSU to Florida (under Donovan) as the eventual goal, which was 100% right.

In the 30 years that preceded his arrival you had a pathetic last few years of Dale on the way out after the NCAA finally exacted their pound of flesh they had been seeking for years. You then had a guy (Brady) who was one of the few who would take the job on the cheap. Brady's 10.5 years can be defined by one word "inconsistency". On two separate occasions he won the SEC then immediately finished in last place the following year. LSU was either really good or horrible...sometimes during the same season. There was no baseline. Johnson seemed like a good hire on paper. It just turned out he was a horrible fit. Jones was a complete waste of time and the laziest hire by the laziest AD to run a department.

Wade was Brown when he was first hired. Young coach. Boundless enthusiasm to grow the program across the state. A guy who loved his players and didn't really give much of a shite about the bureaucratic administration. Wade wasn't doing anything that doesn't happen at ALL of the power programs in America. He, unfortunately, talked to the wrong "runner" (one of HUNDREDS, maybe thousands across America) at the wrong time (the first time in HISTORY the DOJ/FBI found investigating college basketball recruiting to be a priority). When that wasn't enough, the NCAA enacted a clear set up (the woman wanting hush money...though seemingly very specific text messages).

With a 39 year old HC LSU fans could have been looking at years and years of exciting March's instead of what basketball had been for the better part of 30 years...just a momentary brief distraction until spring football. That is now gone and the program, within a week or so, will be reduced to nothing. No coaching staff and no players

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The worst part is Woodward and Tates official statement. They literally posted that they were "exhausted from the never ending negativity." WHO frickING CARES what national writers think.

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Agreed! JUST WIN. We live in an age of perpetual (faux) outrage and virtue signaling. Everyone in the media wants to show just how "virtuous" they are. Many of these are the same losers who covered up a lot of egregious things that happened in the era before social media and cameras on every cell phone.

But Woodward got what he wanted. And make no mistake, this was 100% Woodward's decision. Tate has not been here long enough and doesn't have enough internal clout yet to force such a thing. Particularly when he knows the people most hurt by the decision are young black men (i.e. the players, who no one seemed to consider in this situation).

So the ball in in your court Woody. You're the master "hirer". Here's to hoping your next hire will be the FIRST to win a national championship under your leadership. There are several people with a LOT of THEIR money on the line.

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So he pretty much brought the program back to what it was from 2007 to 2017? Got it.

frick you and your holier than thou attitude.

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Yea lots to be said for working to build a beautiful house then as it nears completion, set a match and burn it down. Well we have our memories - I say lets move forward and create new ones. What say you? Just want to live in and relive the past? You'll not change the present nor be part of the future it seems.

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NoGeaux

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Thank you for the level-headed post. If only LSU and/or Will Wade was more proficient at cheating.

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This was inevitable. Ultimately you can not. You simply can not get caught on a federal wire tap talking about a “strong arse offer” to a recruit.

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because literally Wade was caught on tape, on text and in bank records paying players, family, exes.

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It’s not that Will paid players it’s he was sloppy about it and left a paper, $$ and audio trail.

I get folks love him. But you gotta be honest about what he did and HOW he did it.

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I say lets move forward and create new ones. What say you? Just want to live in and relive the past? You'll not change the present nor be part of the future it seems.

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I agree with you. My concern now is that the new contractor hired to build the house has pretty shitty experience when building houses so it is a valid concern that our next house may have serious issues despite it having a pretty paint color and mailbox

frick I am gonna miss him. We were gonna have him for another 20+ years if our AD/Pres would have just taken a lesson from all past cases... tell the NCAA to frick off and they will, you cooperate and you get fricked

This thread was one last ride for all the folks Wade somehow conned into backing him even though he got caught cheating almost as soon as he started.

He didn’t even coach in the postseason the one year he won something

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Also, that is an allegation against Wade, doesnt make it true. I definitely dont blindly believe the ncaa

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The Wade haters believe the NCAA.

Even Woodward and Tate don't necessarily believe the NCAA:

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Notably, our decision to terminate Coach Wade and Coach Armstrong is not an acknowledgement of agreement with any of the allegations.

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Your hero destroyed any chance of that.

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Nah. Woodward wanted a reason to fire Wade. Woodward wants his guy. I hope he gets a good one.